Episode 84: The end of an era
Running time: 44:15
While Rilian and glumPuddle hope to do more discussions with the rest of the council on Narnia topics, this will be the last film news discussion for the foreseeable future. In this episode, we discuss the present status of the franchise, share laughs, frustrations, questions and a few last reflections as we conclude this episode. As an era in the podcast concludes, we on the council would like to give a warm and sincere “Thank you” to all our listeners.
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Yah, they probably will have lightsabers or something like that sometime from now.
Oh! This podcast makes me kind of sad. 🙁 Even though I didn't join the forums in those early days, I heard about Narnia about the time RotK came out and my friends didn't think I'd heard correctly because I wasn't up much on movies. 🙂 I've been on NarniaWeb ever since then and it has been so fun to listen to the podcasts and discuss the news with other fans. I feel like I know you a little now. 😉 I hope that we will see more films in the not-to-distant future. Further up and further in!
oh okay.. well i didn't understand everything what he was saying because my english isn't very good.. but now i understand a bit a more!! the green mist was for make the evil visible or am I wrong?
I don't want reboots to be made. It would only be replays of LWW, PC, and VDT, fizzling out as soon as Silver chair is mentioned, and forgetting about the other four books. I'm fine with LWW and PC. Even VDT should be given a rest for a bit.
I think you're right. The green mist realy means the evil tempting the good guys… Actually I don't mind It's a bad idea. That's not in the book but in the the movie It was cool…
Ya, why not…
It's like my favorite Narnia song!!! O, and I love A Narnian Lullaby!
No? So what? I just said we agreed. That's just nice cause not many people on here agree with me always……
yeah me too cause I still watch the old BBCS 🙂 even if they're cheesy
yes. i really like the movie! and the green mist makes it more that people can understand!! especially me! and it makes it a bit exiting( google translate give me this word.. hope it is a good one)
O, I'm not saying people who aren't Christians can't read the books. They can. It's our job to tell them what it's about. They're not gonna see it if they're not Saved, but that doesn't mean they can't read the books. That's up to them. I saw Louloudi agreed that he represented Christ, but I didn't understand by what Louloudi meant that Aslan didn't die because he represented Christ, but that he died to bring hope to Narnia. It doesn't make sense to me why Aslan WOULD die if he didn't represent Christ.
No, it wasn't Narnia =( It was a complete shock to me. I wasn't expecting it!
Really? Thats funny cause your one of the mmost sensible people on this site lol
I see what you mean. Now what I think Louloudi was emphasizing on was the point that its not christian literature handouts aimed at little kids.
I mean the movie was done well, but it just wasnt Narnia at all.
It was kind of interesting because how would Narnia respond naturally to evil? So it kind of was a plot filler, but an interesting one at that.
If its close to the book, I'll watch it!
O, thank you. Well, lots of people on here like PC and VODT and I really don't…for many apparent reasons. I'm not saying they can't like them though. I just don't understand because I am a book fan 😀
Hmm? Little kids? They're Children books, though. ? I'm a little confused. 🙂 Like Christian Literature Handouts, What do you mean by that?
It was like…they wanted to be LOTR all over again. Especially in VODT, though, with the whole glowing-blue swords!
YEP!!! That's why I like the BBCs
Yah, if your a book fan, PC and VDT don't even compare. VDT especially. It was so far off the book it was incredibly dissapointing. I really kinda liked PC,cause im more of an LOTR kinda guy, but still, no were near the book.
I was referring to the part in Louloudis comment when he said that he hated people calling the books Christian propaganda for little children. Which that is why Louloudi was emphasizing on Aslans crucifixtion, and how he puts it, not representing Jesus, but hope for Narnia.
I know!!! As soon as I saw that I immediatly thought "Really? Your doing the mini LOTR thing again?". I liked PC's LOTR elements because it had good battle sequences.
Hmmm…. the midget in the mouse costume scared the crap out of me when I was little though.
LWW live on stage in central new York! Upstate. Go to SyracuseStage.org for details! Professional production! I'm going! Can't wait!Unlock video
Live on stage! LWW!!!!! SyracuseStage.org
Umm, whats live on stage? No offense that was kinda random.
The stAge play of the lion the witch and the wardrobe! For anyo e living near central new york
Oh, okay.
Yeah, but I wonder if LOTR fans were like "Those look dumb because they are trying to copy LOTRs?" 🙂 I mean, they already made LOTRS… this is Narnia, not LOTRs… It's like they wanted LOTRs over again…but you can't have LOTRs over again! *scratches head* Am I making sense? ^_^
I know! When me and my family first saw the commercial we were like "What??? Glowing blue swords? What is this Lord of the Rings?"
They're just not the same thing, people 🙂 It's sad when they can't come up with their own ideas! Maybe because they thought LOTRs was such a big success? And they were trying to be a success…but failed? 🙂
Ya….. sort of lol.
HA! What? Really! Reepicheep was always my favorite! Hey, do you know the guy who played Reepicheep in the BBC movies plays Nikibrik in the new movies?
Oh yeah…… They do have similar voices.
Always Narnian: What do you mean people aren't going to see what the books are about if they're not Saved? Also what Louloudi meant was C.S. Lewis didn't have Aslan die just beacause he represented Christ, but Aslan died to save Narnia. Also, Aslan didn't die to redeem Edmund. Edmund redeemed himself when he repented of his sins. You can't reedeem someone else if their not sorry for what they have done.
In a way your right, and in a way you arent. Aslan died on the stone table to reclaim Edmunds blood, which is a picture of Christ redeeming us from sin. So yes, Aslan is a redeemer. But you are also right that you can't be fully saved without repenting, but this price is already paid.
Thats also why Christ is called by Christians "Redeemer". So to say that Edmund redeemed himself is like saying I can redeem myself, but the truth is I can't, Jesus already did that for me.
Okaaaayayyyy
That will either be really cool or an utter disaster. Getting a non-cheesy visual effect can be tricky without the use of film special effects. Tell us how it goes. 🙂
The problem is that it really doesn't function as a "start." None of the 4 remaining books do. MN in particular features protagonists that only return as very minor characters, one villain that we never see again, another villain that may, by some remote chance, have flashback cameos in some other films, and a self-contained plot.
Well, it all depends on the budget.
Now i'm sad… very, VERY SAD!
I guess we won't be getting any more Narnia movies, unless you like LEGO animations
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upFjNThB_a0
GAH! People actually watch my YouTube videos!
On a random sidenote here, what's the music at the end of the podcast?
It's funny he got to play in both the BBC and the new ones
very very very sad
I know, he actually did a really good job as Nikabrik.
That is definately a good one, but my fav is still the music played right before battle.
Ha! That's your video? LOL!
very very very very……..
I'm sad. But I have to say I have probably the most visual imagination in … the world, maybe? So I love going back and re-reading the books and working out exactly how I would make things look. My sister really wants to be Polly Plummer, so I put in her likeness in my head and then pick out other actors for other roles. I must say though, Tilda Swinton would play Jadis in MN and Will Poulter would play Eustace in SC.
Gosh, this is the weirdest thing that has ever happened to me. I actually had to think a moment for the correct spellings of those names. I really need to go back a read the Narnia books over again. But first I need to get rid of this sinus infection. It's not very pleasant.
While I'm still alive (but barely breathing) can you guys tell me which book is your favorite of the Narnia ones? For a start, mine is all of them, but maybe you all can narrow it down a bit better! ;D
It's supposed to be a preview of a Lego animation I WILL be doing of The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe.
Well, since I have this convenient piece of advertising on a Narnia website, if anyone has any comments on the video, I'm all ears!
I have no idea how long it will be before the next podcast, but, however long it is, I hope glumPuddle takes the time to stop perpetuating the myth that 'Prince Caspian' didn't perform well. There were 188 films given wide domestic release in 2008. 'Prince Caspian' outperformed 173 of them. It's "performance" was actually quite remarkable. It was the most EXPENSIVE film of 2008. THAT was the problem.[/broken record]
Other than that often-repeated fallacy, you've both made many good comments over the years, and I'll definitely miss these.
O, yeah me too. Definately the BEST!
You can in no way "redeem" yourself. Repent, yes, you must do that. But Edmund could never redeem himself. And did you not read the rest of what I said? Please do. I don't understand how I did not answer the thing about Aslan's death already.
All the badguys were really good at their part in PC! Like Miraz, Glozelle, and Nikibrik, but the good guys weren't so great … =( Isn't that sad, they got the badguys right but they messed up the good charcters.
Besides, you cannot "win" redemption through works. Salvation is a gift of grace, and must be received through faith, nothing we can do can win that. It is not based on works. Only through Christ.
Yes you can repent, but that does not redeem you. Edmund (or I) could repent all we want BUT because of Aslans (God's) grace for us, we are redeemed. God didnt have to send his son down to earth to save us, Aslan didnt have to die for Edmund, Hec, he's the creator of Narnia, he doesnt have to die for Ed. Ed could repent all he wants and Aslan wouldnt have to die for him. Thats what makes Aslan redeemer, not Edmund.
Yeah I see what you mean. But if we don't have repentant hearts…when we come to Christ to redeem us…you know! Yes, it is CHRIST that REDEEMS, that's for sure.