Episode 84: The end of an era
Running time: 44:15
While Rilian and glumPuddle hope to do more discussions with the rest of the council on Narnia topics, this will be the last film news discussion for the foreseeable future. In this episode, we discuss the present status of the franchise, share laughs, frustrations, questions and a few last reflections as we conclude this episode. As an era in the podcast concludes, we on the council would like to give a warm and sincere “Thank you” to all our listeners.
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I always have wanted to see an anime styled Narnia, I think that would be very cool.
To adapt the books as full-length animated features will actually be a good idea. Just imagine what wonders studios like Ghibli or Pixar can do with such great materials.
But what I really wish, though, is for the series to go into the hands of BBC once more, in the near future. I'm sure they can deliver.
I'd have to agree…nothing can compare with the books. They're just the best! My loyalty has always been to the books, hence why I was so upset with the movies 🙂
I would love to see BBC to do it, in a sense, because they are so faithful to the books. I think, though, that they would need to team up with a company who was very good at special effects/CGI, and then you'd have a really good movie. I don't know how much BBC does with special effects/CGI.
What if they did someting CG? I could see a CG adaptation doing pretty well, they wouldn't have the "Growing up" issues, it would be a new spin off of it, and maybe someone who would stick the the real plot would pick it up.
Just a thought.
~Ara
I actually think that would be kinda cool, Aravis. I don't think it would ever happen, but it's a pretty nice thought.
Well, I liked your comment!
It was cheesy, almost as cheesy as VDTs catch phrase.
Ahem VDT….
GOOD FOR YOU TOO!
Id like it, but would it happen-no.
Well guys, it sure has been fun. I've been following your podcasts since Rilian first started them. Laying this era down to rest in my own life has been bittersweet, as the Narnia film anticipation has been strong since LWW production. In that time, I've gotten married, moved, changed jobs, etc. I'd put the Narnia podcasts on my iPod and my husband and I would listen to them on road trips. Thanks for all your hard work; we sure have enjoyed them. I'd love to see where you guys end up with your careers. You've got a great head start if you go into the entertainment industry.
Amen, we must return to the magic, we must return to Narnia!
no worries. it's sticking around for a while… (so long as the gremlins don't take it over 😛 )
Agree. Dave Arnold's soundtrack was entirely forgettable. HGW's soundtracks were soaring and magical. I hope if the movies are made again that either HGW or James Newton Howard (who has a very similar style) will compose.
Return to hope….. er, what hope?
LOL. Betcha gremlins took over the directing of Dawn Treader.
I would buy HGW's music for LWW and PC, VDT was too slow for me. It was pretty music, but it most certainly not Narnia.
wow, this is quite an emotional podcast. thank you for the wonderful years. 🙂
Dont get too soppy.
I know you guys didn't like VDT, but please keep in mind that lots of people did. I makes me sad when you make fun of one of my favorite movies in the entire world. 🙁
AHEM…and PC 🙂
i really dont like the idea of a reboot. i think it would just sabotage the Narnia franchise completely. and besides, i would be heartbroken to not see Will Poulter as Eustace again on screen. i dont think i've ever loved a character in a movie so much. he was an absolute gem 🙂
Sorry. I meant "observation."
Return to hope. Return to magic. Return to Narnia.
Even if reboots are made, they'll never be the same as the original Disney/Walden/Fox movies. It'll be impossible to make reboots as good as the originals.
Im not making fun, Im just saying even the movies plot and the tagline really didnt match up. Like literally, the slogon return to hope didnt match VDT. Its not that I hated VDT, its just it could have been a little bit better.
Yeah, PC was an alright movie, just wasnt Narnia ya know?
I have to agree, I dont know if I would like it if they re did Lion the witch and the wardrobe. Id be fine with a Prince Caspian and VDT reboot, but LWW would be hard too like.
I mean HGW's battle theme was totally amazing! It gave you such a majestic feel. David Arnold's was…just…well, ok.
Louloudi the Centaur:
You said not to debate about this, but I cannot keep silent.You said in your comment: "Let us live in the present and look on the past and read the books to our heart’s content and feel the true heart and emotion of what Lewis gave us." but before that you had said:"Aslan being sacrificed, for example, is done because He is the one who saves Narnia, because He is Narnia’s hope after the 100 year Winter, not because He stands for Jesus Christ!" You CANNOT feel the true heart and emotion of Lewis' books if you sit there and deny what the true heart of the books are! C.S. Lewis himself said that the Narnia books were supposals: if CHRIST came to a world where animals talked, how would he come to save them? As a Talking Animal? Of course, as the King of all Beasts, a lion! To say that Aslan does not stand for Jesus Christ is absolutly crazy. What does Aslan do? He dies in Edmund's place, to redeem him. Blood was required to save Edmund's life, and Aslan laid down his own life for Edmund's sake, just as Christ Jesus did for the whole world. To even say we need to feel the true heart and emotion of Lewis' books but then deny what C.S. Lewis' meant in his books is…well, plain ludicrous.
Sorry that was in reply to Louloudi the Centaur
Yes! The battle theme for LWW was absolutely beautiful.
I'm sorry Louloudi, but he has got a point. Aslan representing Jesus is what Narnia is all about dude. Take away that aspect and C. S. Lewis' work is pointless. to say that Aslan is not Jesus in another world is, well, just plain crazy. I know you didn't want us to argue this point, but it's kind of unavoidable when you post something that controversal.
LOL
Actually to quote Lewis himself " I did not say to myself 'Let us represent Jesus as He really is in our world by a Lion in Narnia'; I said let us suppose that there were a land like Narnia AND (pay attention right here Louloudi) that the Son of God, as He became a man in our world, became a Lion there, and then imagine what woud happen", so I hope that clears it up.
Don't feel embarressed at all! Everyones opinion is welcome here.
Oops, sorry Fireflower if that sounded bad. I dont mean to insult your fav movie.
Cool!
-JillPole
I agree that Will Poulter was perfectly cast as Eustace; however, if the next film comes out six years after Dawn Treader, he would be way too old for the part unfortunately.
Sorry Fireflower, I really like all three movies (Prince Caspian being my favourite), I was merely joking about the cheesy trailer phrases
I was just being sarcastic, if I offended you Im sorry.
By the way, the Star Wars movies are good movies.
Let's try to keep this debate to a minimum on here in the comments. If you feel you need to say something to me, save it for somewhere else. This is very off topic already, and I don't want to cause a controversy on here.
The Narnia series as to my understanding, is indeed a supposal. To quote myself: "Let us live in the present and look on the past and read the books to our heart’s content and feel the true heart and emotion of what Lewis gave us." Aslan is the true heart and emotion of the story, because I do agree that Aslan does stand for Jesus Christ. But what I was saying is that the sacrifice wasn't put in the put to show that Jesus died for our sins first and foremost, it was to show hope for Narnia and Edmund who had betrayed his siblings and Narnia. Behind that, I agree that this shows what Jesus has done for us in this world, but you know, not everybody who reads this book at first will notice Christian elements.
I know that this comment will cause people to back talk me, but you know, I've seen atheists and other non-Christians who enjoy these books because they are well written, not because Aslan stands for Christ in out world. I've even seen people disagree that Aslan stands for Christ, believe it or not. I do think we can all agree that Aslan is Narnia's hope, whether he stands for Christ or not.
This is a very interesting point of debate, but I'm not saying anything more. Save this for later though. It may come in handy. I say this because there won't be any more podcasts on film news for awhile, and that we are going to have to turn to the books for the real Narnia.
Actually Louloudi, I'm not going to back talk to you, I'm going to back you up. I read somewhere online that even Pauline Baynes, the artist of all 7 of the books, wept while drawing the scene of Aslan's death on the stone table, and she found out that Aslan represented Jesus after that. So even without the Christian elements of the books, the books alone are very powerful stories. And I think thats what made Lewis an absolute genius, he did not write The chronicles specificlly for christians, he wrote them for everybody to enjoy.
Really? I mean, I liked the first 3, but I saw the forth movie . . . Revenge of the Attack of Whatever, and I didn't bother with the rest.
So you didnt like the old ones? Understandable.
Well, I think it might be somewhat interesting, even without the good special effects, I would still watch it
Last Battle happens seven earth years after Silver Chair.
if you want to understand the green mist, why they put it in the movie, on Aslans Country is an interview with douglas Gresham. He explain a bit about it!!
Cool! I will probably check it out!
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So Jill Pole, I watched the interview with Gresham, and to be brutally honest that is exactly what I expected him to say. There was no real need and purpose in the movie for the green mist other then to liven up the plot. I wish they could have at least made the movie the way the book was intended to be, no bad guys or epic extreme fantasy stuff, just a journey to the end of the world and to discover the fate of the Lords, not all this added stuff, just plain and simple a journey.
No. I'm sorry. Aslan dying was not just to show "hope" for Narnia. Why would Aslan die and raise again from the dead just to show "hope" for Narnia? Why? If C.S. Lewis was merely writing about hope for Narnia, why wouldn't he just make Aslan come, kill the White Witch, and then Narnia would have spring again? Why is that element in there? Why would Aslan die? Aslan had to die because he had to redeem Edmund. Notice the similarities: the Witch's creatures shouted and cheered as they tied Aslan up, but Aslan didn't make a noise (Christ kept silent before his accusers), they strained and tugged on his cords so it cut his flesh and the creatures kicked him, hit him, spit on him, (Christ was hit, spit on, and beaten), it said that if the Lion had chosen, one of his paws could have been the death of them all (Christ could have come down from the cross, but he followed His Father's will and died for sinners), Alsan's mane was shaved (they stripped Christ and put a scarlet robe on Him), they jeered at Aslan (Christ was mocked), killed (Christ died), and then Aslan rose from the dead, (Christ rose three days later!!!). How can he not represent Christ?
😀 Glad you agree 😀
I completey agree that he represents Christ, and I think Louloudi knows that, but what I was agreeing with him is the fact that everyone can enjoy it, even if you are not a christian. But I totally agree that Lewis intended for Aslan to represent Christ, that was the whole purpose of the character.
No the first three filmed, not the first three in the story chronology.
Dude, glad you agree? What is this, buddy team up time versus Louloudi? I agree with both of what you guys said, so why does it matter man?
The problem with CG is that it costs an arm and a leg.
I liked them all. In like ten-twenty years from now I want a re-make. Technoligy will be even better by then and episodes 4, 5, & 6 will look ecspesially good because imagine a jump from the 70-80's to the future!