Opinion: Sequel? Prequel? Reboot? What now?
NEWS DROUGHT ALERT!
In the middle of a news drought, fans have a tendency to let their imaginations run wild on what the future could hold. In this video, I embrace that tendency and examine possible routes Walden Media could take for a fourth Narnia film.
Outline:
1. Sequel: The Silver Chair
- Fourth book to be published (1953)
- Logical next chapter
- Will Poulter’s age
- Set up in Dawn Treader film
2. Prequel: The Magician’s Nephew
- More popular book
- Clear connection to the first film
- The opportunity to give Tilda Swinton a prominent role again.
3. Reboot: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe
- Start from scratch: New cast, new crew
- Would need to be fundamentally different from Adamson’s version. (Animation? PG13?)
4. Reboot: The Magician’s Nephew
- Re-cast Aslan and The White Witch
5. Prequel (to VDT): The Horse and His Boy
- The Pevensies would likley be given bigger roles
6. Re-read the books! I have read each book a dozen times, and I’m still discovering new things.
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Every fall Saturday morning I wake up at 5:30 to watch Star Wars: The Clone Wars (This show records on Friday night, but we are usually watching shows with our family at that time), Then Gameday starts at 6 on ESPNU, then at 7 the show switches over to ESPN, and we watch it there till it finishes at 9. Did you hear about what's happening at Miami University right now? 72 guys were to have allegedly taken extra benifits from a ex-convict. What's USC's one guy compaired to 72??? That makes USC look a lot better then they did yesterday morning 🙂
Yeah, they are saying the penalties are so severe, that they actually might get the death penalty. There has only been like one team who got the death penalty, and that was SMU back in the 70s. I think it is unfair that USC is put to shame for only a few people when youve got Miami here. Yeesh…. the way this system is set up is very flawed. I think its time for something other then the BCS for a change. Im so happy that the NFL season is back, and im hoping that my team does well this year(NY Giants). You got a fav NFL team?
Reboot the series!
They have done horrible jobs with the last two films. If you need to make them super long like Lord of the Rings.
Just please, please don't continue to make these movies failures!
Wow….. HHB is second to last. That one was one of my favorites. Anyways heres my list.
1. LWW
2. SC
3. MN
4. HHB
5. LB
6. VDT
7. PC
This is kind of weird, because for the book i like VDT better then PC, but when it comes down to the movies i like PC alot. My reason for the book being last is because it is sooooo boring.
Reboot the series? Like who ever suggested it. I don't recall any rumblings of a studio being interested in Narnia. Walden is the only company right now I can think of who has shown any update interest in Narnia, so if they don't make it, don't count on any more visits to Narnia anytime soon.
So Cemeh, what is your real reason?
SMU is till trying to get back to how they were before the Death Penalty. That was crazy. on another note I agree. The BCS is not working out. The NCAA should be cleaned out and give consisetent and fair punishments. I don't have a particular favorite NFL team. I just watch a game and cheer for the team with the most former USC players 🙂 However I'm really excited for the NFL season this year because my extended family is playing Fantasy Football this year. I've never played but my uncle showed me how it works and it looks like a lot of fun 🙂
i don't what to say, it is shocking to be honest!
Sweet. Ive played fantasy football before. I am currently in a fantasy baseball season, and trust me, fantasy football is better. Mostly because youve got only 16 in football,and fantasy baseball takes waaaayyy longer and it gets boring after a while.
I most wholeheartedly agree with your statement. Each movie has continually gone downhill, and might I add with the same scriptwriters writing each movie????? BY the way love your comment at the end of your quote. haha
My REAL reason???? She got the part of Susan and I didn't…there, you happy now??
In VDT, Eustacwe could have easily passed for a 12 year old. He'll be to old when he can't pass for an early teenager. Right now he could maybe pass for a 12 year old. So nobody really knows when Will P. will be too old, because noone knows what he'll look like in one or 2 years.
yeah, i really wanted to see a romance this time. they were probably afraid it would make caspian look lika a two timer, though.
WOW! Fabulous cave. I may have to put that on my bucket list. Yet another reason to go to new zealand!
Thats exactly what i thought when i first read this!!! its also common sense to do the silver chair next cause of will poulter, u cant replace him just like u cant replace the other actors and have a fresh start, they're all perfect, its dumb even thinking about it
oh and i think johnny depp should play puddleglum hehe 😉
Dont feel bad. Its not like your the only person whos upset about it. They can only pic one you know.
What do ya mean by inetense? And would it be cartoon or animated? I just cant see neither of them being intense.
Don't give up hope Cemeh. With these producers, you never know. They might need a long lost pevensie sister who dosen't get into the new Narnia so Susan can go in. Then you can play the sister in LB 🙂
Hmmmm, last i knew, this was Narniaweb, not Xmenweb lol.
I absolutley agree with you
I'll reemember that. Thanks! Do you have a favorite baseball team? Mine is the Angels.
Same here. 100 percent. I think they should have had this all figured out a long time ago. Lord of the rings was easy, do fellowship then two towers, then return of the king. And then after that its logical to go with The hobbit. Same thing with Harry Potter. They had the series all planned out before they even started. They need to pick this thing up and carry on with the next four films. They need to forget about whats already happened, and continue on. right now theyve got an age problem with Poulter. If this blackout continues, he will be at least 20 something by the time SC starts filming. He will probably be aroung 30 ish when the series is over. Now think about it, what if they filmed HHB and MN before LB, how old would Poulter be, around 30. We cant have a 30 year old playing the part of a 12 year old. So the logical thing is to film SC and LB back to back, then film HHB and finish it up with MN. Just one condition, i know for the directors and writers it is very tempting to put the green mist in MN. Please, just for the sake of us Narnia fans, dont add the green mist.
Well, it all comes down to age. You could play Jill in
SC. Besides, theres always other movies you can audition for if you really want to be an actress. Just dont take it out on Popplewell cause they chose her instead of you. Just think if you got the part, and then people started hating you cause you got the part that they wanted. That wouldnt be cool.
GO RED SOX!!! I know, i like teams all over the country lol (NY Giants, Longhorns,Red Sox, Celtics, Bruins). But mostly in New England, cause i used to live there also (yeah, my family has moved alot).
Cast cast cast cast it all comes down to cast. I dont think i would even enjoy a VDT movie without Poulter. Maybe that movie was really bad, but the cast was the thing that saved it. Anybody other then Tilda Swinton would fail at the role of Jadis. And anybody else doing the voice of Aslan other then Liam Neeson would sound weird (like the focus on the family audio tape they made aslan sound soooo dumb!)
Those caves are so cool! Has anybody seen the giant crystal caves on tv? man they are amazing!
My understanding is that Walt Disney learned lessons in dealing with a beloved classic in literature after releasing Alice in Wonderland. PEOPLE DON'T LIKE A CLASSIC TWEAKED UNLESS YOU DO IT EXTREMELY WELL, AND EVEN IF ITS DONE EXTREMELY WELL ITS STILL NOT A SURE THING.
In my opinion here are the tweaks that kepted the classic series in literature from becoming a classic series on the big screen.
1) Not staying true to the seven basic story plots. There are seven story plots – the first kind is OVERCOME THE MONSTER – our hero learns of a great evil threatening the land, and sets out to destroy it – LWW the movie, like the book, stayed true to the overcoming the monster story line and we were well on our way to blockbuster series. It is with the second basic story plot that the wheels fall off – Rags to Riches: Surrounded by dark forces who suppress and ridicule him, the hero slowly blossoms into a mature figure who ultimately gets riches, a kingdom, and the perfect mate. This is a essence of Lewis' Prince Caspian story. IT WAS NOT EMBRACED IN THE SCREEN PLAY AND THE DAMAGE TO THE SERIES WAS DONE. George Lucas understood that Luke was the Rages to Riches story plot. In this context it is my opinion that comparing Luke with Caspian helps to understand the downfall of what this series could have been – Luke respected Obi-Wan. Caspian, did not respect Peter from the start and he comes across as a snotty know it all instead of someone we want to see succede. Luke's love life was not a primary concern – in fact we are left to assume that once he was completed his mission that a Mrs. Skywalker would come into his life – but Star Wars didn't even need to give us hint of a promise – the kiss between Susan and Caspian derailed the basic story plot. Once you kiss the girl, you have gone from rags to riches! Caspian was cast old in the movie but Luke shows that it can be overcome – leave out a serious love interest till he is done going from rages to riches. According to my theory this derailed PC and sealed the fate of VDT. The third story plot is The Quest: The hero sets, often with companions, to find that which was lost. True enough VDT does do this, but the damage had been done.
My opinion, the reboot with a chronilogial telling, MN goingfirst, staying true to the plots that the genious of Lewis built in, deviating from only when the motion picture can not go what the written story says and therefore must be adjusted.
BYW….
Modern setting of Narnia….my understanding is that Warner Brothers did have the rights before Walden and was pursuing a screen play for Narnia much like Glumpuddle talked about.
I bet New England is really pretty in the Fall. That's cool that you like teams all over. All my favorite teams are pretty much located in So Cal 🙂
Thanks you guys for the encouragement to try out for these rolls because, though I'm a boy, I should still be able to play a woman's role.
Yep! it is really pretty in the fall.
PC wasnt horrible, maybe peter was a brat, but it passed. I think the movies are fine the way they are, just aslong as they dont ruin the next movie.
Your welcome Cemeh.
i kept thinking. since they now have trouble deciding which Narnia movie to do next. why didnt they think about that in the first place, like, when they were starting to do LWW ?
and now they wanna cancel the sequel just because of *that* ?
No, it was Paramount that was going to make a modernized Narnia.
Im not trying to be mean or anything, but did it ever occur to you that thats probably why you didnt get the role?
I agree that he looked about 12 in VDT, and that he's too old if he can't pass for early teens in SC.
The problem is that he's already aged a lot since filming VDT, to the point that he can no longer pass for anything less than 15, imo.
Cool!
So cal has awesome weather, especially San Diego, its like 70 degrees ALL YEAR LONG. Tex on the other hand…….. 115 degrees in the summer, 20-40 degrees in the winter (texas isnt fun lol).
I would rather them make the Magician's Nephew next so that it will make lots of lots of money so they CAN make Silver Chair and then the last of the books into movies. And a reboot would be too soon. And a cartoon(computer animation) just wouldn't be the same. And if they started making them PG13, it would become more like Harry Potter(and that's kind of… bad in my opinion). I wouldn't mind too much if they rebooted the series, as long as 'Lucy' is thin, because that's how I always pictured her. It would be cool if they just came out and said, "Okay, we're going to make another one! We're going to make the Horse and his Boy next." But that probably won't happen, but we can still hope. and pray.
Why is the Ukrainian version awesome?
Gee, Lucy in LWW wasnt chubby, she was pretty thin. Now think about it, what would happen if they did things your way (HHB then MN). By the time that they do SC Poulter would be like 28, seriously! In the books hes supposed to be 11! Id like them to be made your way to, but with Poulters age being the main issue, I think the best solution is to film MN and SC at the same time
my final decision is they either make Magician's Nephew next because I agree on what glumpuddle is getting at. Other option, reboot in about ten years from now.
70 degrees is nice. We lived is a very hot part of SC. Our weather was in the Winter 60 degrees at the coldest and every other part of the year is 100 🙂
I'm just going to say I think I found all of the musical fans. 🙂
Your right, there are hot parts of So cal. Was it more inland? Cuuase areas like west-southern cal are pretty hot. Like El Centro, it gets hot out there. Actually it gets pretty cold too. I remeber on a rode trip with my family we drove through there and it started to snow! It was crazy. They are kinda in the middle of the desert, but right next to a group of mountains, so they get quite a mixtuere of weather.
I most definately DO NOT agree with a reboot. I don't think I would be able to watch it. I watched LWW before reading the books and seeing the BBC flims and I seriously don't think I will ever bring myself to watch them. I simply cannot stand seeing characters portrayed by different actors and I think most of us feel the same way. A reboot would probably kill the Narnia movies at this point in time. In the extremely distant future it has possibilites, but certainly NOT NOW!
I really think SC should be filmed ASAP. Setting up everything for it in VDT and then flipping over to MN would just be strange to casual movie fans. Plus Will Poulter's age, as I said before having another actor portray a character is an extreme pet peeve of mine, and that could happen if Will got too old for his part.
But at this moment, I just would like to see any movie come from the franchise! I have no patience and this long, awkward silence is starting to worry me. I hope we will get another film soon.
I don't think Lucy's chubby in the newer LWW. I love Georgie.
In the old BBC version though, Lucy looked totally different, and I didn't really like her in that version. I really wouldn't mind if SC was made next instead of the Magician's Nephew. I would like Disney to change their minds or something and get back into making Narnia movies with Walden Media so that they will have enough money to make two movies at a time. That would be nice, even though I don't really trust Disney. They just like to make money out of movies. Hm… if they did make HHB, I would have wanted them to make SC after that and then MN and then LB so that the actor doesn't get too old. If he did get too old, they would probably get a new actor to play the part as Eustace, which is a big mixed bag. If he does get to be too old, then he'll be too old, unless they think it's okay if an adult goes to Narnia.
I really don't mind too much though. I just hope they make a movie soon. But I guess I don't mind too much whether or not they mirror the books(because I've read them and it's not like people are going to go out and burn them all one day).
Why does everyone think that Tilda and Liam are such strong selling points? I don't know anyone who goes to see Narnia because those two are in it.
One of the things that makes him look older is
1. He's dressed in modern clothing
2. His current haircut
I agree that he's aged quite a bit, but if he wears historical clothing and has the same hairstyle as in VDT, he could pass for 13 or 14.
Reboot??? how could that even be a possiblity. They did super amazing with LWW, okay with PC, and really good is VDT, no reboot.
But I like the idea of prequel but the logic of doing that with a whole new cast(except Liam and Tilda of course) seems a little risky with Will poulter's age. though he is at the stage in his life where his looks won't be changing that much. nor his voice. he may grow taller but that isn't really a problem.
I am indescisive
i mean animated, but realistic, not goofy-like, or kiddish. like japanese anime 'movies have cool scenery and effects and a serious plot. or the animated movie "Heavy Metal" go look for some screenshots of it), not like the 70's narnia tv movie, with hanna barbera scooby doo like characters. true to the plot, no weird green mist. intelligent and spiritual. not so jacked up, action packed to need a monster around every corner to fight. like family radio theater version, only visual.THE REAL NARNIA!
disney HAD it all figured out, they were going to put out one a year. the series would have been finished by now and the kids would have stayed younger. too bad that they tinkered with the
pC script so much, that's what killed the momentum and started the backlash. everything was going perfect and they had the monster disney machine behind them. oh, i could weep.
hey!! come back! what are the last 4 types of plots! that was getting good!!
WWDD+ What Would Disney Do? disney had the game plan all set, i bet,
casual movie fans don't know what order the books are in so it doesn't matter to them.
This does look prmoisnig. I'll keep coming back for more.
What lesson did Disney learn from Alice in Wonderland? It was very different from the book (granted it was a what-ever-happened-to story, not a remake), and it made a killing at the box office.
It was near Riverside County. I'm not going to be able to go on the internet for a couple days so I won't be able to reply anymore. Computer problems. I ejoyed talking to you! Thanks!
That's right, it's been so long I got my studio's mixed up! Thanks for reminding me! David
Sorry, I should have specified the 1951 animated version. From what I've read Disney took so much heat from fans of the book/author for the way he handled the material that he vowed to never touch a beloved classic again – I will admit that the context might have been "british classic" or "in an animated medium", I need re-check my source for this information. The 1951 Alice followed the 1950 Disney Cinderella (Cinderella was in fact a finacial success from the get go).