Opinion: Sequel? Prequel? Reboot? What now?
NEWS DROUGHT ALERT!
In the middle of a news drought, fans have a tendency to let their imaginations run wild on what the future could hold. In this video, I embrace that tendency and examine possible routes Walden Media could take for a fourth Narnia film.
Outline:
1. Sequel: The Silver Chair
- Fourth book to be published (1953)
- Logical next chapter
- Will Poulter’s age
- Set up in Dawn Treader film
2. Prequel: The Magician’s Nephew
- More popular book
- Clear connection to the first film
- The opportunity to give Tilda Swinton a prominent role again.
3. Reboot: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe
- Start from scratch: New cast, new crew
- Would need to be fundamentally different from Adamson’s version. (Animation? PG13?)
4. Reboot: The Magician’s Nephew
- Re-cast Aslan and The White Witch
5. Prequel (to VDT): The Horse and His Boy
- The Pevensies would likley be given bigger roles
6. Re-read the books! I have read each book a dozen times, and I’m still discovering new things.
How would you feel if Walden announced a LWW reboot? Scroll to the bottom of the homepage and vote now!
I don't think that any movie should be rebooted. They should continue with plans to make either Magician's Nephew or The Silver Chair next.
I actually think there is a musical for LWW It just never became famous. Hehe, I wonder why.
We're discussing marketing potential, though. While FC proves, from an artistic point of view, that a prequel can be made, it also proves that a prequel won't sell itself. For all we know, a movie all about Storm might have fared better.
Yeah. Neither was the PS2's grapics. A game I'm looking to getting is NCAA Football 2012. I'm a big college football fan and the next game looks great.
Whats ur fav team? Im a Longhorns fan, so HOOK EM HORNS!!! But yah, the new one they have coming out looks good.
Rilian sings about the Green Lady:
♪Green Lady, Green Lady, ever-lovin' Green Lady
is takin' a chance, talk about your long shots,
takin' a chance on me!♪
King Tirian at the end of LB. "Kiss today goodbye, the sweetness and the sorrow. We did what we had to do, Can't regret, won't forget, what I did for love."
I do NOT want the whole cast replaced! just do MN next or do both MN+SC the same year
What?! No no! I just hope they do The magician's nephew already, i think it would be interesting to see how exactly narnia was first created!
What are you even talking about? I doubt rather seriously that Perry Moore left his entire worldly wealth to his employer when he had a partner and extended family to leave it to. Besides, I doubt very seriously the man had enough money to fund a Narnia film with. He wasn't exactly a billionaire.
Well, I didn't say he was a millionaire. He just left *some* money for funding MN. (I'm only half an idiot. I do know that he wasn't the richest man in the world.)
Well, I have a friend who whenever I do something he can't he says, "You suck." I guess when that word becomes part of you vocabulary you throw it around and think that everyone knows when you're joking or being serious.
I am a die-hard USC Trojans football fan. My whole family is. While we were living in SO Cal we were season ticket holders. I still haven't forgiven the Longhorns for that National Chamionship a few yers back 😉
Riliian to the Green Lady "Ill do anything, for you dear anything, and ill do anything, anyhting, for you!" lol.
Oh! And when the beavers tell the Pevensies about the prophecy "Tradition, TRADITION!"
Oh, I used to live in So Cal. And I used to root for them a lot. The Horns and USC were my two fav teams and the national champship game tor me apart. Ever since the bowl ban, id say im leaning towards the longhorns. But still, you guys have a better quarter back then we doo.
Maybe, but some words i dont use so lightly lol.
Neither do I Dylan
I thought the end of the movie was the best too. When the big battle is over, after that it really felt like Narnia.
I had one problem with the end though. Caspian is not supposed to be there at the border of Aslan's country. Edmund especially would not say " Aren't you going?" In the book, Edmund and Lucy very adamantly tell Caspian he can't go to the end of the world.
I'm now worried that this is going to turn into something like the hobbit movie, which would not be good.
LOL! HHB is my favorite of the Narnia books… and I am actually going to read it again now and REJOICE at the idea that this fantastic piece of literature will never be tainted by a wishy-washy adaptation that will cut out the great spiritual message at its core and turn it into Prince of Persia part 2.
I know it's not exactly canonical, but casting Tilda Swinton as TLOTGK in SC would be entirely forgivable, detract nothing from the book, and offer a pseudo-legitimate excuse for Fox (?) and Walden (?) to get her back into top billing. Heck, she wouldn't even need to be referred to as TWW (just 'one of her crew': striking family resemblance, perhaps). It could make tens of millions of dollars and more films of difference….
Totally agree! Go for sequel! Logical next chapter!
I think those punishments were unfair. And if the NCAA is going to punish one team with a bowl band, you should do that to everyone else who did what Reggie Bush did. On another note, our QB, Matt Barkley is a relly big Christian. He goes on mission trips to africa durring the off season. Really cool guy.
What I ment to say was: "And if the NCAA is going to punish one team with a bowl band, 'THEY' (Not 'you'. Sorry for the typo) should do that to everyone else who did what Reggie Bush did."
I hope they don't cast Tilda as TLOTGK, not because she hasn't done a good job, but just since I'm afraid it will take focus away from the story that Lewis wanted to tell.
That's what I felt happened in VDT – they wanted the film so much to be like the other two (especially LWW), so the Voyage of the Dawn Treader and Caspian's mission was completely lost in the blur of everything else.
If they do deside to make another film (which I hope), they should just work on making a good adaption of the book, without thinking too much about previous successes or mistakes.
I was thinking that they should do something like an intro segment also. Especially since they had nothing in VDT. When I saw VDT, I was very dissapointed that they had nothiing with Caspian and Lilliandil, who's Caspian's future wife, but they had a Susan and Caspian romance in PC.
Shasta on the way through Tashbaan…"Wiv a little bit, wiv a little bit, wiv a little bit of luck we'll sneak right through."
I semi agree with that point, but honestly when I read the books to begin I imagined them in my head as older. I thinked I wouldn't go much more than a year younger. If they plan the production schedule as I've said before(every 6 months) they shouldn't age more than 5 years from the LWW to LB.
I have to go with Silver Chair. LWW, PC, VDT and SC make a complete story in of themselves and that story is not yet complete. It needs to be. Even though the storyline is already screwed up by the way VDT was done. Although, I will admit that up until I saw glumpuddle's review on youtube, I would've said to just drop the whole thing.
hehehe
Well then, whats Cemehs reason?
I completely agree with you. Besides, didnt Matt Barkley go to Matire Dei?
Oh dear, no Prince of Persia part two, the thought makes me cringe. You are right though, HBB is too good a book to be messed up. But if done right, it would have the potential of greatness and would be just as magical as LWW. Like I said, I am surprised that the people from Walden cannot see this, clearly they haven't read the book. Maybe it's just as well.
That being said, I've enjoyed all three movies made, LWW most though. The Harry Potter series has taught me to enjoy the movies separately from the books, because you can only fit so much into a movie. So I like the movies for what they are, and I love the cast, they all did excellent jobs. But the books remain the true works of art.
Jealousy maybe?? Or perhaps cemeh's one of Popplewell's ex-boyfriends??
Yeah I think so. We met him after an away game. He is really nice. We also met Lane Kiffin. A funny moment happened when my mom and dad were both taking a picture of us and they bumped in to each other. Everyone who saw it thought it was funny (fans, the few coaches and players that were out at that moment, and us) except for Kniffin. He just kind of rolled his eyes. He always seems so grumpy 🙂 I don't think i've seen him smile.
You covered many good thoughts on what may happen.
It is been rare to see a series last past 3 or 4 movies.When it has done that, there has always been some kind of transition:
1. a few years intermission
2. a change in rights, ownership
3. a change in series direction
4. a different cast, crew, or production
etc.
I think one big thing to consider is this:
Since each film made less at the box office, there will be much pressure to decrease production costs by a great margin. In other words, greatly slashing the ability to add cgi effects and typical blockbuster styling. This may be one of the hanging points in negotiations. Walden Media may be struggling to convince current studio rights group to further invest large sums in the next movie (and beyond). It could lead to Walden Media wanting a new company to take over rights to film franchise so they can continue to see series continue with large production values seen in previous three films. If this happens, it could be years before it continues. Let's hope that scenario does not play out.
As for me, I love The Magician's Nephew book. But I think I would rather see it done with a group that is completely devoted toward being faithful to the story and imagery. Let them make The Silver Chair next. It is my least favorite and they can alter it all they want.
Reboot is a TERRIBLE idea!!!! If had to choose I would do SC, then MN (My favorite), HBB, and LAST the LB.
I really like MN but I don't want it to be responsible for ruining the whole series because of Will's age. And if they were to reboot it can't have language included in the rating.
I really think they'll be doing MN. I hope they do it by the book this time with appropriate changes. I would change a little in all the books but NOT what happened in VDT. I hated the changes in VDT!!!! But I love a few changes in VDT like the part with Lucy and Aslan in the scene when she looks like Susan for a short time.
I don't know when they will get around to make the Silver Chair. But I think I have a good guess what the Narnia people are going to have the orgin of the Green Mist be. I bet they are going to have the Lady of the Green Kirtle be in control of it. Anyone else have any theories???
Gresham has already said that they will most likely not do that.
Well then. Cemeh, what is your reason?
Ha! Thats funny! Man, he does seem grumpy. Maybe it was all those wasted years with the Oakland raiders that made him that way lol.
Personally, I'd like to see them drop the whole series. It's getting worse and worse as they go, and I don't want their grubby paws anywhere near it anymore. Just when I thought nothing could be as bad as Prince Caspian, Dawn Treader was a straight up travesty. I sincerely hope they decide to leave it and never return. To quote "Anna and the King"- 'You have helped enough for one day'.
This reply is actually to NotOfThisWorld-
Doug Gresham has pseudo-promised a lot of things. I've lost my faith in his judgement.
Do I need a reason to hate Anna Popplewell????
A reboot? Not against it totally, just generally. A reboot would require more time to have passed since the current crop of movies. that would allow people time to "forget" these ones and welcome a new series.
What they should have done is film both VDT and SC at the same time. Like Peter Jackson did with LOTR, often filming portions from all 3 books at the same time.
Since they didn't do that they should film both MN & SC at the same time and release them one year apart in whichever order would work best from a marketing/promotional point of view. Best part of that is that if you have 2 movies "in the can" you can promote both simultaneously as well. So it doesn't matter which one gets released to theatres first … the second one would just have more promotional time to build its audience.
I gotta be honest with all you narniawebers as much as I hate to say this, it seems to me that their isn't going to be a fourth Narnia movie. Because if there were we would have heard something by now. The fact that it's taking this long to get any bit of news form Walden Media and/or Fox is not a good sign. And also because VDT made less money than Prince Caspian.
I hate to sound like a downer and I hope I'm wrong, I really do, I want them to make all seven Narnia books into movies as much as all of you. But if we do get any sort of news about the fourth Narnia, I got a bad feeling that it's not going to be good unfortunately.
The problem with that comparison is that LotR is one of the top 5 best-selling books of modern times. That is not the case for VDT, SC, or MN. Now filming all 3 LotR movies at once was still a risk, but not nearly as much of a risk as filming 2 Narnia movies. Releasing movies close together is important if one movie has a lot of momentum, and you want to keep it going. VDT did not have enough momentum that releasing the next movie as soon as possible is critically important. And there's no telling how audiences will respond to Narnia 4, especially if they insist on using the "remember LWW?" approach to marketing.
Now, LWW generated a lot of excitement, and I think it would have helped PC if they had released it for Christmas 2007, if at all humanly possible. It probably would have had a bigger opening, though it still may have suffered from weak legs.
i think if they change it no one will probably watch it bc we grow up with these actors
I wasn't a fan of Prince Caspian or Dawn Treader but do not think a reboot would work( at least not for many years). btw Does anyone else think that the new spiderman reboot looks lame?
I think they should do a SEQUEL… go in order, The Silver Chair.. I would love to have a "continuance" as well as not letting Will Poulter get too much of an older person for his character. Now, I can see why start with a prequel.. to show how Narnia was created and how the White Witch came in and I love Tilda Swinton, but I am not sure if it would be a good idea to have a prequel, at least not right now. DO NOT REBOOT.. that is basically just asking for people to save their money. You cannot have something that has went this long be rebooted just like that. Once again, do not reboot The Magicians Nephew either because I love who plays Aslan and the White Witch. Now The Horse and His Boy was my very least favorite. Grant it, it would be nice to see all 4 Pevensies again but it isn't worth it in my eyes. I've read all seven books at least 5 times, so I am good there.
5. Prequel (to VDT): The Horse and His Boy
The Pevensies would likley be given bigger roles
6. Re-read the books! I have read each book a dozen times, and I’m still discovering new things.
Ha whoops, forgot to take off numbers 5 and 6 in my post.. ignore that =P
Yeah, I know that if I knew how many people knew that The Lady of the Green Kirtle and The White Witch are TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT people, I would make a new actress play her. It would be very weird to see Tilda Swinton who plays the White Witch (who has been dead since the end of LWW) come back and play a different witch.. it would be like twin sisters or something!
Gresham hasn't said that they will absolutly, no questions about it, have Tilda play tLotGK. As I said in my comment above, "Gresham has already said that they will MOST LIKELY not do that." I didn't say that was absolutly the case. I said probobly.
LOL! Do you watch College Gameday on ESPN? That is my favorite show. Makes me feel really excited about College Football.
k, I'm going to keep saying this until someone gives me a proper answer. How much older is too much older? For Will P, I mean.
Below I am posting a December 2009 interview that I found very interesting, and many people have probably forgotten about by now if they saw it.
http://forum.narniaweb.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=727
Scroll down, and you'll see the part that I'm talking about. The thing I find interesting is that even one year before VDT Walden, Fox, and the Estate had not yet figured out what film to do next. The Silver Chair is referenced with the "fine young actor" Douglas Gresham wants to come back, but it doesn't mention which other books.
I think they should have figured out which film to do after opening weekend of VDT in my opinion. If they had done that, I think this black out could have not come to happen. I'm not actually sure to be honest, but this news drought has been giving me a weird dream about a LWW reboot, and a CGI MN, and a SC film where the kids forgot to rescue Rilian somehow.
Well, even if there are no more films to come, I will still live like a NarniaWebber, and be 100% proud of it.
Yes you do need a reason to hate somone. You can't just hate someone for no reason. And hate is a very strong word. What wrong has she done you?
I dont just go walking around saying " I hate Justin Bieber". And yes, i know a lot of people that do. But really, what reason do i have to hate Justin Bieber. Maybe his singing is a little bit girly sounding (just saying), but it gives mee no reason to hate him.
That show is really good. I like when they put on the mascot heads, thats allways funny to watch.