Detailed ‘Dawn Treader’ Blu-ray Review
Just as he did for the Prince Caspian release, NarniaWebber ‘Griffle’ has sent us the most detailed review of The Voyage of the Dawn Treader Blu-ray you will find on the web! It includes a description of all the extras, including the deleted scenes.
The following review is for the 3-disc Blu-ray edition, which also includes a DVD and Digital Copy.
‘Griffle’ writes:
[DISC 1: BLU-RAY]
Picture:
The film looks gorgeous from beginning to end, but really shines during the arrival at Doorn. The sunlight falling on Reepicheepβs fur and on Caspianβs burgundy velour jacket is exquisite. Another scene worth mentioning here is the scene at the Campfire on Goldwater Island. The blacks are solid in this scene and the contrast levels are perfect as the light of the fire fall on Reep and Dragon Eustace. I could go onβ¦You can pick any sequence from the film really.
VDTΒ doesn’t really reach the level of quality set by LWW and PC, but it does look really good on Blu-ray. Even though the colours might not be as lush as in its theatrical release, there’s nothing wrong with the colours on the BD.
Sound:
I find it a bit weird that Fox have decided not to include a 7.1 mix on the Blu-ray and instead opted for a 5.1 mix. But, The sound on this disc is amazing though so thereβs nothing to complain about. The bass sound is really impressive throughout the film, starting with the roaring sound of the planes flying by in the opening sequence (or not flying by as in this case as they are digital) and peaking during the storm and Sea Serpent attack sequences towards the end. Surrounds are always active and constantly engaged. Take the sequence where Lucy walks down the corridor leading to the big room with the Book of Incantations for instance. Her steps against the floor echoing down the hall, the wind blowingβ¦. Wow.
Extras:
The extras menu is shaped like a map with the Dawn Treader in the middle and the five islands in a circle around it. Each island, and the Dawn Treader herself,Β has a clickable unrolled scroll with its title, also known as a submenu. What this means is that you donβt really get a good overview of whatβs actually on the disc just by looking at the extras menu.
Letβs start with the Dawn Treader and then move from island to island in chronological orderβ¦
–DAWN TREADER
King Caspianβs Guide to the Dawn TreaderΒ (04:13)
Of all the extras on this disc, this is the one that I was looking forward to seeing the most. Unfortunately, itβs also the most disappointing feature on the disc. When I first read that there was going to be a feature with βguide to the Dawn Treaderβ in its title, I naturally though that we were going to get an actual tour of the Dawn Treader set. You know, see the ship in detail, both inside and outside. No such luck. This, like many of the other extras on the disc (youβll see) consist almost entirely of clips from the film with a bit of narration laid on top of it. Ben Barnes as King Caspian in this case. There are a few still photographs here and there, but there is no video footage shot specifically for this extra. When you click on this feature in the Dawn Treader sub menu, you get to another sub menu where you can choose to have a look at a specific section of the ship or view it all at once. Viewable sections of the ship are Main Deck, State Room, Poop Deck, Map Room and Oar Room. As weβre talking about a feature that is around four minutes with the Play All option, I donβt really see the point of watching it in parts.
The Secret Islands: Untold Adventures of the Dawn TreaderΒ (07:20)
Again: disappointment! I was so expecting this to be a fully animated.Β What we get though,Β is not a total waste of time. I mean, you do get to see Pauline Baynes illustrations come to life and theyβre as colourful as ever. I guess what you think of the actual content and how itβs presented with its Ben Barnes as King Caspian narration is up to you. I canβt say I care that much for this myself.
–FOX MOVIE CHANNEL PRESENTS:
In Character with Liam Neeson of The Chronicles of Narnia: VDTΒ (05:06)
In Character with Georgie Henley and Will Poulter of The Chronicles of Narnia: VDTΒ (05:20)
Direct Effect – Michael Apted of The Chronicles of Narnia: VDTΒ (06:27)
Making a Scene – The Chronicles of Narnia: VDTΒ (09:11)
(View/download)
–LONE ISLANDS
Okay, so now weβre getting to the Smoke & Mirrors parts of the disc. There are two type of extras that youβll findΒ under the Island submenus that consists of nothing but clips from the film with a bit of narration. The first type is called βIsland Explorationsβ, dealing with the islands of the movie and the second type is called βNarnian Discoveries: Friends and Foes of Narnia, dealing withβ¦ yeah, you got itβ¦friends and foes of Narnia.Β Theyβre obviously aimed at children.
Iβve taken the liberty of transcribing the narration of them for your entertainment making them take up just as much space in this review as they do on the disc in number:
Explore NarrowhavenΒ (00:42)
Unknown Female Narrator: “Tread carefully here, for you have reached the Lone Islands. An isolated place where Treachery and Greed have been known at times to corrupt the hearts of men. One such figure was Governor Gumpas, who pursued a path of wealth and power even if it meant enslaving the island citizens. But there is also much beauty in these islands, which are three in number: Felimath, Dorn and Avra. The latter being a land often visited by Narniaβs noble men and women.”
Minotaur DiscoveryΒ (00:51)
Unknown Female Narrator: “Tavros is the Dawn Treaderβs First Mate. A strong and intimidating Minotaur, his size and might are a boon to the Dawn Treader crew, especially in the rowing, sail hoisting and heavy lifting departments. Despite his sharp horns and stern visage however, this half man, half boar does have a sense of humour (clip from film: ‘Was it something I said?’) and is loyal to his King. Especially when the going gets tough. (clip from film: ‘Man the long boats, furl the sail and prepare to drop anchor!'”
Deleted ScenesΒ (04:27)
— Scene 11: The Kids in Narnian ClothesΒ (00:35)
This is a short scene in which we see Edmund and Lucy in their Narnian clothes for the first time. Lucy is a bit uncomfortable with wearing Caspianβs clothes and he makes fun of her for wearing them saying βExcuse me lad, I donβt suppose youβve seen a young girl around here?β. Lucy responds by giving him a jab to his left arm and saying βall β¦right!β. This scene contains unfinished VFX work. The feet of a satyr needs to be added and the backgrounds have to be fixed.
— Scene 14: Eustace is IllΒ (00:43)
This is aΒ great scene in which Eustace is lying in his cot under deck as heβs visited by Lucy. Heβs sick and obviously delirious as he mistakes a Faun bringing him some soup for his Mother. βLucy, why does Mother smell like a Goat?β. That line is pretty funny! Worth noting: Lucy sure doesnβt value the content of her cordial the way she once did in this scene as a huge drop of Fire-Flower juice is seen trickle down Eustaceβs chin as she gives him some to make him feel better.
— Scene 65: MutinyΒ (02:23)
I love this scene. It never comes to mutiny, but itβs really close. Caspian tries to speak to the crew but fails and Drinian has to step in and take command. How humiliating.
— Scene 90: Caspian βDoubtβΒ (00:55)
The first ten seconds of this is in the film. Caspian tells Edmund that they canβt be sure the otherΒ lords even made it to Ramanduβs island and asks βHow do we know they werenβt tempted too?β Edmund ensures him that they should be alright if they never yielded nor faltered as the first lords did.
The Epic ContinuesΒ (02:15)
This is from the Electronic Press Kit (EPK) and itβs a trailer + interviews mix in which the director and actors try to explain the plot of the film.
— MAGICIANβS ISLAND
Explore Magicianβs IslandΒ (0:42)
Unknown Female Narrator:Β “Welcome traveler! You have arrived at Magicianβs Island, which takes its name from its most brilliant and mysterious resident: Coriakin. The island is also home to a remarkable race known as the Dufflepuds, who are no less wondrous although far less brilliant. Some visitors to this island mistakenly believe it to be abandoned; so silent and empty is the land around its sandy beach that those that stay, to listen and look more closely, will find many signs of life and a hint of the ancient magic that lies deep within it.”
Dufflepud DiscoveryΒ (01:01)
Unknown Female Narrator: “Short and often fat with round faces, unkept hair and of course: One giant foot. Dufflepuds inhabit the island of Coriakin, the magician. They coerce Lucy to undo a spell that has made them invisible. They need her help, because they themselves are illiterate. Although mostly simple and good natured, they believe Coriakin to be the oppressor and live in fear of his magic. They spend most of their time manically guarding Coriakinβs grounds grooming the bushes and hedges into strange and fantastical formations. They are also know to rest on their backs, using their giant feet for shade, and can also float on the water, paddling about, using the foot as if it was a kayak.”
Commentary by Director Michael Apted and Producer Mark JohnsonΒ (1:48:03)
Dry, humourless, boring. Mark Johnson even loses his voice halfway through the thing, thatβs how dry it is. The highlightΒ (if it can be called a highlight) of the track , is the fact that Johnson says they seriously thought of using Skandarβs sisterβs voice to dub over Skandarβs performance when his voice started to break during the shooting of LWW.Β Apted briefly mentions the Green Mist and says that the movie needed a great villain (how good a villain a Green Mist is, is not discussed however). As for the seven Lords being substituted by seven Swords: Thatβs not mentioned at all. Thereβs also no mentioning of the critique against the film, leaving me to believe that it was recorded before the theatrical release. They talk about the Queen wearing 3D glasses though, so itβs recorded after that.
–GOLDWATER ISLAND
Explore Goldwater IslandΒ (00:50)
Unknown Female Narrator: “Enchantment can take many forms, both beneficial and deadly. Here, on tiny Goldwater Island, you may find both kinds of enchantment in a single spot. It was King Caspian that gave the name Goldwater to this 20 acres of land, when he and his friends found the magic within an island pool; a magic that turned all it touched into gold. But beware of that water, or you may find yourself beneath it; a forgotten gold statue like the unfortunate lord Restimar. Fate is as changeable as the weather here, which can shift in a moment, from sunshine to showers.”
Dragon DiscoveryΒ (00:56)
Unknown Female Narrator: “Well known throughout mythology, Dragons are large winged reptilian creatures that can breathe fire. Eustace becomes a dragon when he thinks greedy dragonish thoughts while picking through a Dragonβs enchanted treasure horde. This unfortunate condition can only be reversed by Aslanβs power.”
Theatrical TrailerΒ (02:12)
This is the third trailer that was released, the one in which we got to see more of the bit at Aslanβs Country at the end of the film.
Digital Copy βHow ToβΒ (03:35)
An infomercial explaining how to make use of your Digital Copy. Iβve personally never used any of my Digital Copy discs. Not because Iβm against them all that much, but because most of the discs that I buy are US imports, making them useless as they are region locked. Itβs a shame, since it would be pretty cool if I could get VDT onto my iPod Touch. Most if not all US released Digital Copies are iTunes friendly but they always use Windows Media over here, so I guess itβs never gonna happen for me. Sad but true.
–RAMANDUβS ISLAND
Explore Ramanduβs IslandΒ (00:59)
Unknown Female Narrator: “You have now reached the island of Ramandu. Breathe deeply and you may detect a pleasant aroma. Itβs rather like the colour purple, isnβt it? The calm you feel is reflected in the gentle slopes and hills that surround you. This is a fitting home for Ramandu, a figure who was once a star before he descended to this island along with his daughter. You will findΒ a reminder of Ramanduβs past at night if you look up into the silver stars that glitter, then disappear in the greyness of an Eastern Sky.”
Reepicheep DiscoveryΒ (01:10)
Unknown Female Narrator: “A valiant defender of Narniaβs glory and a firm believer in the existence of Aslanβs Country at the end of the ocean. The mouse Reepicheepβs enormous sense of honour and his skills with a rapier belie his short stature. Heβs delighted to see Lucy and Edmund again but turn a sceptical eye toward the insolent Eustace. After magic and battle (wow) reveal a new side to Eustace however, Reepicheep realizes heβs indeed a kindred spirit. Reepicheep is descended from the common mice who gnawed through the ropes (I actually own a piece of this holy relic) that bound Aslan to the Stone TableΒ when the White Witch demanded his sacrifice. To honour their service, Aslan gave the mice the gift of speech. Reepicheep is noble, fearless and exceedingly courteous. Except when his honour is insulted or if someone touches his tail, which Aslan himself restored after it was severed during battle with the Telmarinesβ¦ and Prince Caspian.” (Say what? Reep fought Caspian!?)
Aslan DiscoveryΒ (01:02)
Unknown Female Narrator: “The Great Lion, the Emperor Over the Sea and the Creator of all Narnia. Aslan is the protector of all that is good in this land, although, as is often pointed out: heβs not a tame Lion. As the Dawn Treaderβs voyagers speculate about the existence of Aslanβs Country, which may or may not lie at the end of the Eastern Ocean, the Great Lion makes his presence felt in very subtle ways. Helping them chose their own destiny and confront the evil that they are pursuing.”
Lilliandil DiscoveryΒ (00:52)
Unknown Female Narrator: “Seen in the sky as the Blue Star in the East, beautiful, luminescent Lilliandil, presides over Aslanβs Table. She is the daughter of the Star Ramandu, upon whose island, the Dawn Treaderβs crew lands for much needed provisions. Before confronting the Green Mist and the mysterious Dark Island, Caspian is very taken by her and hopes to meet her again.” Thereβs actually a brief shot of Lilliandil smiling at the end of this thatβs not in the film.
Search for the Seven Swords Match Game
This is a memory game in which you get to see the seven swords, or in this case seven Rhindons, with Peterβs Shield in front of each one of them. The handle on the swords and the lionβs crests on the shields all have a different colours to them and you get 15 seconds to try and memorize their positions before a yellowish fire effect cover them. Colours are Red, Green, Pink/Bright Purple, Bright Blue, Dark Blue, Bright Orange and Dark Orange. This is pretty tricky if you ask me. Itβs all about luck when it comes to how theyβre placed on the screen. It took me about four tries to get it right and did I get anything for getting them all right? Nahβ¦you get to see a clip from the film where the three Lords at Ramanduβs island gets freed from the spell theyβre under. Youβre then asked if you want to play again.
VFX Progression with Optional Commentary by Director Michael Apted and Producer Mark Johnson
BLU-RAY EXCLUSIVE
This is my favourite extra on the disc. Iβm in awe of the amazing visual effects work done for this film by VFX companies like MPC, The Senate, and Framestore. This is so cool! But why have Apted and Johnson to do the commentary for a visual effects progression reel? What do they know about VFX? Apted admits to this being his first big VFX film elsewhere on the disc and Johnson is just a producer (who, by the way, claims that the naiads are creatures created specifically for this film. At least thatβs what it sounds like). Why not have one of the visual effects supervisors do the commentary? Like Adam Valdez of MPC (the creator of Reepicheep for PC and the Telmarine Soldier killed by Reep in the battle at the end of PC btw) for instance.
Anyway, highlights include the βFootprint boatβ, the boat that they used to created the wake of the Dawn Treader and the many iterations of Tavros and Reepicheep. This feature covers all the VFX shots in the film from MPCβs impressive Reepicheep and Dragon Eustace characters to Framestoreβs wave that never breaks, with one notable exception: The entrance to Narnia. I guess they figured they had that covered.
–DARK ISLAND
Explore the Dark IslandΒ (00:57)
Unknown Female Narrator: “It has been called the Island where dreams come true, but not all dreams are pleasant and sailors have found how frightening the nightmare can be when it manifests itself in the dead of night. Many an illusion may appear before it vanishes into a smooth solid blackness. Your nerves may find some consolation in the bright blue water that surrounds this misty place. But beyond that water, lies utter darkness, as if you have reached the edge of a moonless, starless night.”
White Witch DiscoveryΒ (00:36)
Unknown Female Narrator: “The White Witch that appears to Edmund on the Dawn Treader is merely a figment of his imagination unleashed by the mind bending Green Mist, but she remains a reminder to him that that which tempts us is always a threat and our vanquished foes still live onβ¦in our minds.”
Serpent DiscoveryΒ (00:42)
Unknown Female Narrator: “Conjured from the depths of Edmunds worst nightmares, the Sea Serpent that attacks the Dawn Treader is a relentless force of evil that will not stop until its prey is dead or destroyed. It is over 300 feet long; 311 feet to bee exact, or 95 meters, and when provoked, it reveals a hood like a Cobraβs, ringed with a layer of fangs.”
Portal to Narnia: A Painting Comes to LifeΒ (07:22)
BLU-RAY EXCLUSIVE
This is the second of the two featurettes focusing on the entrance to Narnia on this disc. Being that theyβre both about the same subject, we do get to hear a lot of the same stories being told again and yes, there is a bit of overlapping as well, but not as much as I thought.
So, what separates this from the βMaking a Sceneβ featurette? Well, first of all, itβs better produced with fancy graphics showing us who the people being interviewed are. Another thing this has that βMaking a Sceneβ doesnβt have is Barry Robison. Barry actually built the sets for the scene, (or at least designed them) so I thought it was a bit strange when he wasnβt represented in the βMakingΒ a Sceneβ feature. We also get to hear from visual effects supervisor Adam Valdez.
Producer Mark Johnson shortly discusses the difference between Lewisβ version of the scene and the version that is in the film. Thereβs also more of Will Poulter being humble as he is. What a nice guy! Oh, and there are storyboards!
Good Vs Evil: Battle on the SeaΒ (10:55)
BLU-RAY EXCLUSIVE
Itβs funny, but you get to see more of the Dawn Treader set in this feature than in King Caspianβs Guide to the Dawn Treader, which is really appreciated. This is a great featurette in which we get to see them film shots from the Sea Serpent battle inside of a huge studio with Blue Screen all around. You get short interview clips with people like Michael Apted, Georgie Henley, Skandar Keynes, Will Poulter, Allan Poppleton, Howard Berger, Adam Valdez, Dante Spinotti, Barry Robison , Douglas Gresham (only appearance on the disc I believe) and Mark Johnson of course. Johnson is everywhere! You also get to see early concept art of the Dawn Treader and of the Sea Serpent, which btw looks a lot better in the film.
BD-LIVE EXTRAS
You can choose between βWhatβs Newβ and βExclusive Thereβs a Place for Us by Carrie Underwood Music Videoβ here from the main menu. Iβve tried to access the Whatβs New feature several times now and I get to a blue screen with some fog that is displayed for like a second before the screen goes black, and all of a sudden I get the 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment logo in my face followed by the lame Digital Copy commercial and the birds and dogs of Rio and Marley & Me: The Puppy Years. I havenβt clicked on the Music Video yet, but Iβve already seen it and I donβt really care for the Carrie Underwood version of the song.
WHATβS MISSING
Absent from the BD (and the DVD for that matter) are the International Music Videos many thought would be included on the disc. Theyβre not. They will however make it onto the UK release according to a newly posted announcement by FOX on dvdactive.com. The same announcement also claims this release will have five deleted scenes instead of the four included on the US disc. (says βx5β, might be a typo)
[DISC 2: DVD]
DVD Picture/Sound
The blacks are grey instead of black and the colours are far from as vibrant as on the Blu-ray, but other than that; it looks great for being a DVD. Good old Dolby Digital 5.1 still delivers. Itβs not as nuanced as Blu-ray audio but it still sounds great. Dialogue is clear and surrounds are active.
DVD Extras
The DVD includes the Deleted Scenes and the Audio commentary, thatβs it. Thereβs a 2-Disc Special Edition available to buy as well, but this 3-Disc set does not include the second disc of that release.
(Note: If you buy the DVD edition of the film, you will be able to watch all the extras, except for the ones marked “Blu-ray Exclusive” of course)
[DISC 3: DIGITAL COPY]
Iβve never been able to get this to work due to the region and format difficulties, so I have no experience at all of using Digital Copy discs. Thereβs more than enough information on how it all works between the flyer, the commercial and the βHow-toβ though, so there shouldnβt be a problem for people that want to be able to watch their movies on the go.
[PACKAGING]
Beautiful, sure, but practical? Remember the Clam Shell packaging Warner used for their DVDs in the early days? Whatever happened to those? Thereβs no reasonΒ for this type of packaging not to join the Clam Shell in the DVD mortuary. Itβs layer upon layer upon layer of packaging. Takes half a minute just to get the discs out. Durable? Ehβ¦.nahβ¦not really. In fact, the true die hard fans of this film will probably end up with both ripped packaging AND scratchy discs. (at least when it comes to the DVD)
The 3-Disc set also comes with a booklet containing a number of collectible Postcards. As a collector, Iβve never really understood the point of these. Who would ever want to use collectable postcards as actual postcards? Why detach the postcards using the perforation and destroy a perfectly fine picture book? And such an elegant one at that.
Thereβs a Digital Copy flyer as well, explaining how to make use of the Digital Copy disc when not using it as a coaster. (Yes, Iβm making the same joke as I made the last time, itβs still applicable)
OVERALL
Well, this is a HUGE disappointment of a release, you canβt really say anything else. Fox have deliberately used the submenu system to hide the extras and to make it more difficult for us to get an overview of whatβs on the disc, and even if we did get an overview, what we would see would be a lie. There are thirteen βspecialβ features on thisΒ disc that are around a minute long.Β To be fair; there are a couple of worthwhile extras to be found here , like the BD Exclusive VFX Progression Reel and Good Vs. Evil: Battle on the Sea featurettes, but you better memorize where they can be found if you donβt wanna look through up to six menus to find them.
You have to give Fox something for trying though, and you do get stunning picture quality and amazing sound so if youβre not into extras; itβs all good. The down side is that you have to get the 3-Disc set if you want it on Blu-ray as there arenβt any alternatives.
If I was a DVD/Blu-ray producer and was handed the job to do the menus for The Voyage of the Dawn Treader, I would definitely have gone with a book illustrations theme and used the white, mother of pearl coloured backgrounds found during the end titles of the film. If you want to make a tribute to Pauline Baynes, why not go all the way? I would have tossed the Island sub menus in a second.
Soβ¦Three films, three DVD/BD releases. Which movie have had the best set of extras so far? In my opinion, itβs a tie between PC for features like βBig Movie Comes to a Small Townβ, the Commentary with the Kids, Bloopers and all the extras on the sought after Bonus Discs, and the 4-Disc Extended Edition ofΒ LWW for the wonderful C.S. Lewis documentary, the Picture in Picture documentary (before itβs time) and for the inclusion of Art galleries.
Bring on The Magicianβs Nephew (my favourite)! Why not bring back Andrew Adamson for MN? π π
Aramaic needs to be brought back. If anything his skills will be able to redeem the franchise. VotD is actually my least fave, just because I didn't really feel like I was in Narnia. This is our most desperate hour. Help us, Andrew Adamson, your our only hope. π Sorry, I just had to put a Star Wars quote in there. π
It would be smart if the movie companies would give you a 1-2-3 release … # 1 would be strictly BD, # 2 would be BD + Digital Copy and # 3 would be BD/DVD & DC. I too buy the 3 disc version so I can loan the DVD copy to my daughter & son-in-law who do have nor want a BD machine. My other big complaint is about the DC which can only be played on the computer you originally download it too. So, if that computer breaks down and you replace it you can't move it over to the new machine. Dumb. I paid for it but I can't keep using the Digital Copy into the future on new machines?
Adamson needs to be brought back. If anything his skills will be able to redeem the franchise. VotD is actually my least fave, just because I didn't really feel like I was in Narnia. This is our most desperate hour. Help us, Andrew Adamson, your our only hope. π Sorry, I just had to put a Star Wars quote in there. π
so there aren't any bloopers? π cause the ones in the wardrobe and prince caspian were fun just cuz we got to see the personalities of the actors come out
This is off topic of the post but I'm writing it anyway. How many of you think of HHB as your least favorite in the series? Reply back with the answer. Thanks!
P.S. Please click on my name! π
Oh, yes, I can see how that would work now. That makes me wonder…are there female minotaurs? lol, seems like there wouldnt be, but then…i'm going to quit while i'm ahead.
LEAST FAVORITE?! NO! I love it, It is among the top three to me, for it's themes, it's parallels to so many things in my life. I find new meanings in it every time I read it. Out of all the Aslan encounters, the part of HHB when Shasta asks Aslan who he is, gets me a little chocked up. "Myself," Aslan answers.
I could say alot more, but couldn't possibly type everything…
*Choked up not Chocked up, stupid fingers
The reason I have posted this is because I used to think it was my least favorite. But a few days ago I reread it and found I enjoyed and understood it better. Now it is one of my favorite in the series. And BreehyHinnyHoohyHah, I can see by your name that you really really like this book. π
Sorry, my favorite.
i agree on bringing andrew adamson back! hope he isn't busy!
Hey guys!!! I don't know if this story has been posted somewhere or not, if it has I missed it. Dawn Treader has been nominated best fantacy film at National Movie Awards and Ben and Georgie are up for best performances XD acording to Aslan's Country.com GO VOTE!!!!!!!!
http://www.aslanscountry.com/2011/04/dawn-treader-nominated-at-the-national-movie-awards/
HHB is my second favourite of the books after MN. Least favourite of the books: SC, followed by VDT.
You mean almost TWO months, right? π
The scene where all four were in Narnian clothes was a single shot made for the trailers, nothing more.
Sadly, I don't. π
I do seem to remember news stories on here from previous movies about casting calls for dwarves and the like. And wasn't there something about the need for that Gael girl in "VDT?"–I could be wrong so don't quote me on that. Honestly, I'm not sure if they are pre-notified of casting calls.
π I really really do! It was the first book I read oddly enough, before I discovered the others. That was in…wow…fifth grade. That's probably why I love it so.
I love Narniaweb! You can't just chat with different people about Narnia! Maybe Narnia does exist…
I NEED to see that shot of Lilliandil at the end; go ahead, call me an idiot, but even as a boy I love this couple.
Hey, anyone going for the movie itself? Not just the bonus features????? Only three more days……….
i wish they included that shot/trailer bit in narnian clothes, that was awesomeeeeeeee for the dvd
agreed , adamson started off "the narnian look", VDT seemed to not match the others. broke continuity. andrew, come back, bring HGW with you!!!!!
the cheap look i believe is from shooting digitally instead of warm looking film. what a poor decision to cut corners on the 2nd most important book out of the 7. bummer
that was a crazy decision not to have the kids commentary- CRAZY
it does exist, I've been there! π
HHB is my favourite Narnia book.
And in the PC film (one of my all time Top favourite films), right near the end in the courtyard when Caspian lets Aslan, Susan & Peter know everyone is ready or assembled, that environment look/scene really really really makes me think of Horse & His Boy – I'm not sure why.
no! Don't bring adamson back! He didn't even care about Lewis' version of Narnia. He said for PC: 'the narnia in *my* mind…'
Oh well. My opnion doesn't count. But honestly though, what makes a good adaptation vs. a bad one? I don't think it means following word by word, cuz then it gets dragged out, but it certainly isn't what Adamson did either.
*gag* I'm to the point where it's just not worth having an opnion anymore on these things cuz you get killed for what you think… I can't like Apted's version of DT, but I can't *dislike* Adamson's story choices either… why the devil do people care if I like DT but not PC?
I give up… this narnia franchise is really starting to stink.
That was AWESOME! Do you more songs on Youtube?
If you like the movies or dislike them, so be it.
Never let someone else tell you what you can and cannot like. π
For example—
I like all the movies. LWW, VDT, PC In that order.
I think The Green Mist is awesome, and a better villain than the Telmarines (see my Green Mist theory for more).
I LOVED all of the White Witch cameos in both sequels. In fact, my favorite scene in VDT was the White Witch's final temptation of Edmund.
And…. In some ways, I even like the films better than the books.
Yes. That's what I think.
Cheers.
Thanks Mayor! π Maybe if I go back to stories posted about the time of the green-lighting of VDT, I'll see something. Thanks again. π
As much as I hate to say it, here goes, 'My brothers were right' π *gag* They used to tell me in my HHB dislike days that it is a really great book. And it is. Although the chapters where Aravis is hiding and hearing the conversations Rabadash and his father could have been shortened in my opinion. π
Don't worry Pepper Darcy,
I know people that don't like the movie, because it's not a 100% faithful adaption. Well, that's their opinion. You can discuss all you want, but you can't change someone's opinion about something by giving facts.
I love VDT. Probably my favourite of all the three Chronicles adapted so far. I'm an art student, and VDT shines above the first two in that department, among other things. The minotaurs, for example, look much better in Narnia 3: they feel real; not like people with a giant minotaur-"mask" on their head.
I agree with Mayor Wilkins; I actually like the addition of the White Witch in the movies. Yes, Jesus defeated the devil, but he's still luring around every corner to tempt us. You can clearly see in the movie that she is powerless unless someone actually FALLS for her temptations, unlike LWW, where she was able to physically do damage without anyone's help. I hope that made sense π
Also, I agree that I like the movies better than the books. Both are good for their own reasons.
Don't give up on liking Narnia 3; you're not alone. Definitly not. You like VDT? Awesome, me too! Already pre-ordered my copy!
Come again?
I meant you CAN just chat with different people about Narnia. I've always believed Narnia exists.
hey maybe narnia web can call up the actors on conference call or skype and have them do their own podcast/commentary!! that would be awesome!
i'll bet you read them in chronological order first, not published order.
maybe it was because of caspian's goofy outfit -lol
wow. no will poulter?
me too Mayor. I like watching the movies over reading the books. but maybe cause I'm new to narnia.
"I actually like the addition of the White Witch in the movies. Yes, Jesus defeated the devil, but heβs still luring around every corner to tempt us. You can clearly see in the movie that she is powerless unless someone actually FALLS for her temptations"
YES! YES! Someone understands!!!! π π π
100th comment! Thought that was cool when I saw the 99 COMMENTS written… π
Found a clip of one of the special features "King Caspianβs Guide to the Dawn Treader" looks good. I can't understand why this movie underperformed at the box office, it was easily the best installment to date.
http://www.britscene.com/2011/04/take-exclusive-look-inside-narnias-dawn-treader/
Congradulations! Your prize is ABSOLUTLY NOTHING!! π
Do me a favor and try to get that on iTunes. I want to buy it π
LOL!!! π
Narnia is real! Ive always thought this world was somewhat of a remnant of Narnia. Ive also seen some simalarities like when the wind picks up and shakes the trees I feel like Im really there!
I don't know about the blu-ray, but the DVD has probably the best picture quality I've ever seen!!!! Unfortunately, several scenes are lighter than they were in theaters, but there's a lot more detail visible. It's also rich in color and the sound quality is great! Haven't checked out the bonus features on the 2-disc version yet.
I miss the bloopers! (I'm suprised because I've seen Fox add bloopers to DVDs before.)
Uhh, the packaging was awesome! I LOVED it! The reviewer must've been eating sour grapes…
PROBLEM WITH THE PACKAGE!!!!
I bought the 3 disc pack this morning, and what I found was not pleasing. Although you have to give Fox credit for their time and effort in the design of the packaging (which is incredibly impressive), the downside is that there was not enough thought spent on preserving the discs themselves.
In the 3 disc packaging, there are no hubs to contain the blu-ray and the DVD. The discs roam "freely" around the package, making them suceptible and vulerable to scratches. And that's what happened. The discs were scratched heavily. So I went back to Walmart (where I bought this set) and tried to exchange it. The same thing again. All together three boxes were opened all with the same problem. I then asked for a refund. Yet on the plus side, Walmart (probably exclusively) sold a blu-ray version separate without one having to buy the whole set. Yet to get a disc without scratches, you have to buy it individually for the same price that you would otherwise pay to buy all three ($19.99). If Fox could have had a fold out packaging with a hard plastic lining containing good hubs (like they did with The Simpsons seasons)to hold the discs in place, I wouldn't be writing this today. But they decided to go the cheap route. And yet, I still would like a DVD copy, but on a hub in a stable packaging case.
As someone whose job is working on audio for DVD/Blu-Ray release, I feel the need to address the 7.1 comment in the review.
I'm not at all surprised that the BD doesn't include 7.1. Not many people have even a 5.1 setup in their homes, much less 7.1. In the past two years, we've probably only had five movies mixed for 7.1, and those were usually for re-releases in the theater.
5.1 speaker setup is 5 speakers and a subwoofer: Left, Center, Right, Left Surround (back), Right Surround (back), and a sub. 7.1 just adds two additional surrounds. There is hardly any information in the two surrounds in 5.1 so adding two more really makes no difference in someone's home.
In order to mix for 7.1 you need a mixing stage set up for it. (And there almost always winds up being technical difficulties involved) Most restoration facilities have their editors work in edit bays, often on headphones (we've got 5.1 headphones, but I know some only use 2.0) on many different movies at once. It isn't cost-effective for a facility to set up every bay with 7.1 and it isn't cost-effective for a studio to pay for a stage and the extra time it takes to make a 7.1, especially when hardly anyone has that setup. In fact, most of us at work don't even have a 5.1 setup on their TVs at home, and we all work in audio!
It's amazing the amount of work that goes into making a DVD/BD after it's left the theater and, especially with more and more people switching to digital/online methods of watching, the studios have to decide how much they want to spend on the physical products.
Hey, I love special features, so I'm a hard-copy girl through-and-through. Audio files are smaller than video, but they still take up space, so if leaving off an unnecessary format leaves more space for special features, then bring it on! Or at least include a track for the Blind. Those are AWESOME!
I was surprised by this detail as well.
Why hold the digital copy in place, but not the actual movie discs?
Just a stupid idea.
UPDATE:
When examining the disc, I noticed that when you purchase the blu-ray by itself (on the hubs) it doesn't have any of the special features that the blu-ray (in the 3 disc package) contains. It's movie only. So if you want any of the special features, then I guess you will have to tolerate scratched media.
I was really impressed with the 3 Disc Blu Ray version of VDT. My only real complaint is the way 2 of the discs were sort of "glued" into the packaging. I had to clean off sticky glue from the back of the Blu Ray disc and from the DVD disc. It was kind of frustrating. Its possible I just got a bad one or something but the Discs play fine.
Actually, it's funny you mentioned that. I wrote a letter to Fox about it in hopes that they will do something about it. What's funny is that the girl at Customer Service was struggling to get the discs out of the package because of the glue. She was really wrestling with it. She was getting really frustrated. I then started laughing, because in order to get the scratched discs out of the box, she had to immerse it with fingerprints.
I haven't looked for easter eggs yet, but if I find anything I will give you all a heads up!
What about strictly dvd? I have no Blu-Ray, but my computer has a dvd player, so I have no use of a digital copy either…
This is totally off topic, but do they make VHS tapes anymore? I recently had a conversation with another freind on the subject
HHB is my #1 favorite, admittedly when I first read them it was my least favorite, but that was only because I had mistakenly expected more of the Pevensies. Best book ever is HHB, Best character (besides Reep and Lu) is Bree
Urgh, I'm so disappointed with the special features! They really don't live up to the past two films at all. For a start: WHERE WERE THE BLOOPERS?! I really missed them, they were brilliant in Caspian and Wardrobe! And the actors' commentary! Where was that? It's such a loss, especially just because the rest of the special features have almost nothing to do with the actors on set and the crew (at least not in the DVD edition). I could rant for ages, honestly.
I'm kind of disappointed, too. The other films were 2.35:1 (or maybe 2.40:1?) widescreen. This one at least fills a whole HDTV, but I haven't even tried watching it yet. The special feature menus weren't a big deal for me. A bigger shock was the fact of how they're so short or simply regurgitate what you already know about the plot (on Goldwater island, things in the water turn to gold – so THAT'S how it got the name! [sarcasm]). Only a few actually show the main actors, and they're recorded in a distorted format (4:3 ratio stretched into 16:9), with no way to change the setting. Based on seeing some pictures online, I thought the discs would be in a regular Blu-ray case with a decorated slipcover. Nope. Now I'd have to buy an empty Blu case just to protect the main movie disc from scratches and make it easier to access. Why is it that you can hardly buy any new release movies WITHOUT a DVD combo pack? I understand, maybe for portability (watch a DVD in the car, or bring a portable player), or for future compatibility, but I already own a Blu player. I don't want any new DVDs, unless they have SD special features. What I really hope is that they DON'T film "Magician's Nephew" next, because it would break up the continuity (the next book in published order ["The Silver Chair"] affects Caspian's family – his son Rilian, I think), and waste the set up they already did in this movie (green mist to show the underworld preparing for battle, the Jill Pole reference, etc …).
To "upgrade" your Blu-ray player, do you mean getting the new firmware? There should be links on the manufacturer's website, depending on the model number. Some players can even connect to the Internet (wired or wirelessly) and download the newest version.