I really enjoyed Dawn Treader. It's old fashioned, keyed up, technicolor style suits a children's fantasy world. It reminded me a little of Oz and the movie Stardust. It's smaller in scale, sentimental and romantic. All this separates Narnia's imagined world from reality. I suppose that all could make this less commercial and a movie that's not for everyone. It knows what it is and doesn't pretend to be anything but that. To me it was perfect escapist kid fantasy.
I was heartbroken. It felt really shallow. All the depth from the book was gone. The editing was very very choppy, they sped through the story. The dialogue was cheesy and over-acted. All the important themes of the book were reduced to easter eggs for eagle-eyes fans.
At best: A mildly entertaining but forgettable film, and a very poor adaptation.
You are soo soo wrong Glumpuddle, Im sorry you felt that way, I expect you went in Expecting lemons, and so thats what you got! EVERYONE please dont be fooled by negative comments! it was a brilliant film… Not perfect, (But what film is???) Really Enjoyable, Memorable, Eventful, Magical! You will be happy to see it 🙂
I went in very hopeful because of positive reviews from fans. Every so often during the film, my brother would start groaning and I would say "Don't give up on it! I'm telling you, it's going to get good." That exchange happened three or four times throughout the film. Finally, near the end, I gave up.
The story speeds by so fast there is no time to develop anything in the characters. Out of nowhere, at the end Caspian seems to have some inner conflict about his father which is just mentioned once or twice in the movie.
Reep's intense longing and desire for Aslan's Country is gone. It is mentioned once or twice that he would like to go there and that is it. He talks about it the same way you would talk about wanting to go to Disney World.
The thing that shocked me the most was the ending. I had such high expectations for it. But they never set up Reep’s desperate desire for Aslan’s Country, so the scene where he finally got there had no emotional impact. The heartbreak from discovering they will never come back to Narnia was also totally gone. Lucy had apparently read the script, because she already knew they weren’t coming back to Narnia.
I kept feeling like the movie was meant for 4-8 year olds. Everything is spoon-fed to the audience, and the filmmakers always seemed intent on keeping the story moving…to the point of being absurd.
I just had to respond to this comment. No, jag, no. Glumpuddle actually went into the theater expecting (or at least hoping) that the movie would be good, and he really believed that the ending was going to be good. If you read his full review, he has perfect justifications for his disappointment with the film.
Please don't say stuff like, "Everybody, don't be fooled by negative comments!" That is basically like saying, "The opinions of people who liked the film are the only ones that matter," or, "I liked it, so everyone who didn't like it is obviously wrong."
I personally never rely on other peoples thoughts about movies. They usually don't agree with mine. So when I see a negative review of a film that I want to see, I tend to ignore it, go see the film and make my own judgement. Of course most of the films I watch are in the realm of really bad films anyway so most of them have gotten bad reviews.
I'm so sorry, gP! I think everybody here knows how much the books mean to you. I've been playing with the idea of not seeing the film at all, because I'm afraid it will spoil the book. For some reason I don't read the LWW and PC anymore and I don't want the same thing happening with Dawn Treader. Still, I'd like to support the movies and go see it, though I have considerably lower expectations now that you didn't like it.
i totally agree with glumpuddle. The film was too fast for anyone to understand it. It had alack of charcters' emotions. Although. the magic of the lion, the witch and the wardrobe is restored. The story remains unexplained for the person who hasn't read the book. The running time was also quiet short. i guess a bit bigger running time would have really helped. i never new when eustace got converted to a dragon or or why are they on this journey. I guess it was a average adaption matches with prince caspian but you can't compare it to the first one at all what the creaters wanted to do. I will rate it 3 out of 5.
OH MY GOSH! SO AWESOME! SO CHRISTIAN!… just the way i like it. 😉
not very consistent with the book, but still VERY NARNIAN.
love the comedy and action! character development was great too. poulter was amazing!!! henley's acting was a bit disappointing, though.
Aslan’s crucial lines had no impact because they did not set them up. For example: In the book, the kids are heartbroken when they discover they won’t be coming back to Narnia. They are heartbroken because they will never get to see Aslan again. But then Aslan corrects them, he is in their world to but has “another name.”
In the movie, Lucy actually says “we’re not coming back, are we?” She fully expected to never return, and they don’t seem all that heartbroken about it. Edmund especially seems “whatever” about not coming back.
All the crucial lines were there, but their impact was gone. So there was little point in including them at all.
The first two films have a little depth. Good characterization, and pretty good directing. You walk away with more than just 2 hours of entertainment.
VDT is just pure mindless entertainment to munch popcorn to. Watch it, be mildly entertained, and then forget about it.
Yes I understand that, and I appologise, the way I worded my comment was not very good, but one post like that Is enough to stop people from seeing the movie for themselves, and deciding if they like it or not… atleast give the film its first week before spreading negativity … because there really will be people who are swayed by what comments they read.
Really, c'mon glumpuddle. I mean they have a new director and basically staff as well. And its hard to get an awesome movie like Narnia to be right smack dab on the book no movie really does stay with the book and I thoight narnia had done a pretty good job of trying to stick with it. Just give it some time, not trying to be mean or anything you have the right to your opinion but let's just let it play out. Long Live Aslan
hi glumpuddle im also very sad you didnt like it i was praying so much that you would but i have two questions for you which i know are weird but still….1.how did they squeeze susan and peter in narnia three and 2. are you a christian :)???
That's pretty sad. I just may have my own opinion though. I am very worried though because at Rotten Tomatoes it had an approval of about 49%(maybe it even dropped). But like I said I may have to see for myself.
They took The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe and adapted it to movie format in such a way that it was very close to and true to the book, which is of course a tried and true classic. The things they did change were interesting and very much in keeping with what was actually indicated in the book (the bombing raid helped explain why the children were sent away, they illustrated a key battle that is mentioned and explicitly indicated in the book, etc.). They took Prince Caspian, significantly rewrote Lewis's story and changed the whole tone/atmosphere of it, and then were surprised when it didn't do as well as they expected. Now they take Voyage of the Dawn Treader, invent their own plot about unexplained, uncontextualized (and frankly a bit inane sounding) "green mists" and a cliched quest for swords to fight evil, and the film is receiving some very mixed (occasionally scathing) reviews.
When will these people realize that they are not better storytellers than C.S. Lewis? They stick to Lewis, who was original and unique, they have a blockbuster. They come up with some hackneyed plot of their own, then they have everyone comparing what should be an original film to The Lord of the Rings (Lite), Ghostbusters, Pirates of the Caribbean, Lost, and Harry Potter 1 & 2. So what, are they going to turn A Horse and His Boy into a cross between The Prince of Persia, The Mummy, and Aladdin, with a dash of LOTR on the side? Don't change Lewis unless the changes are 1) necessary and 2) an improvement. *Some* of the changes may have been necessary, but almost none of them were an improvement. They have violated this simple rule two times in a row now. I hope they *finally* learn their lesson with The Silver Chair, which is a very straightforward story to adapt. I personally hope they bring onboard an entirely new team of screenwriters (provided, of course, they actually get good ones).
However, I hope neither my negativity nor Glumpuddle's review will stop anyone from seeing the film. This is still an adaptation of a great story, even if does stray too much and speed through the story too rapidly. And, after all, everyone's tastes are different. Some reviewers, including Roger Ebert and Leonard Maltin (!), are pretty positive about the film. So that's something. And, whatever my complaints are, I really, really hope this makes enough to greenlight The Silver Chair and to keep the series rolling.
I have a friend who hasn't read the narnia books and she infact has watched it before me…..and she wasn't confuse with the storyline and she loved the story…especially the effects as well as the different adventures in each island and on the boat….but she was upset she didn't see much peter and susan…i know they are not in the book…remember the michael apted quote on the future of the narnia series…anyways i will review the film as soon as i have watched it…REALLY EXCITED!!!
I felt the same way you did, it really did seem shallow and rushed. The end scene with Aslan was brilliant, but it felt like the movie hadn't built up to that point, like a sudden flash of brilliance that was out of character with what had preceeded it. The emotion of the scene was just right, but it seemed as though we hadn't actually gone far enough with the characters to warrant that kind of an ending, know what I mean?
will anyone tell me whether Lucy's prayer was in the movie? Are they brave enough? That's one thing I've been dying for from this movie: Lucy's Prayer. If it's gone, it's going to be hard to be happy with the film…
Wow…that's too bad. I was expecting you to dislike parts of it, but not to hate it. My expectations are rock-bottom right now. But that's good. I still can't wait to see it. If I expect nothing when I see it, surely I'll get something. 🙂
My main concern right now is whether the public will like it. If the movie doesn't make money and people don't like it, we can say goodbye to Silver Chair and the rest of the movies. That's my darkest fear right now. If the Narnia series is dropped, THEN I will be heartbroken. (Although if SC was ruined, that would be pretty traumatic too) So I'll be feeling pretty stressed this weekend. I guess I'll try to distract myself with Christmas. 🙂
man, I just read Glumpuddle's review… 🙁 I never felt more disappointed, heartbroken and felt like crying 🙁 Well, I'll post a review on my blog tomorrow when I get back. and I'll compare it to Narnia now vs. BBC Narnia. We'll see what we see and what happens…
Still, I also find the green mist and the seven swords unnecessary… would have loved to see a film that didn't change that – I love the idea that they have been called upon for personal reasons and that Caspian simply wanted to invite his father's friends back to Narnia.
But, I will see the movie, and I think I will like it for what it is, but I will always return to the book again and again and read it as the classic it is.
Oh gosh, I don't know what to expect anymore, so Iam just not really putting my heart or mind set an anything =P I think I am going to cry one way or another, however… =P
Well said, LT & Gp. My thots entirely. (Pumped to see DT, but even the trailers portend that of which you speak, & I remember the screen-writers' arrogance which I bemoaned in PC)
I've forced my whole family (who are not all Narniacs) to see each movie with me! But it's getting harder if they don't Rock. I know I'll love it & enjoy even a shallow ride: cuz I can retreat to the books. But others may yawn.
Hate to be hokey, but I pray for new filmakers who are "True Believers"- who GET Clive! Who get his brilliance & maybe even share his vision. (That's asking too much) How about about some innovators– who can take us to Narnia, not Hollywood… who still have a childlike Wonder for truth & fantasy, and a pioneer's Hunger to create something unique & endearing… and who can defer to Lewis' imagination.
I. Am. So. Freaking. EXCITED!!!!!!!!!!!! *RUNS AROUND HOUSE SCREAMING* I'm a little nervous after GlumPuddle's review…..oh, who am i kidding, I was so dissapionted. But hey, I'm just going to hold my breath and wait to see it tomorrow (yes, I know, I have to wait THAT long 😉 ) and see what i think.
For now………….. THIS IS SO AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *faints with excitedness overload*
I'm excited to be getting to see it in just a matter of hours (after waiting for 2 and a half years)….but I have to admit my expectations are really low.
I know, it's so hard because we've waited this long, braving all the reviews, changes, and long, endless days of waiting, and then we hear from some that it isn't really that great, and then from others that it's amazing. I'm with ya, brother (or sister ;))
Here's to all Narnia fans on this site: Watch the movie anyway. There's no guarantee you will enjoy it, but for your own sake make this day worth the trouble of designing crazy avatars, recording podcasts, fighting on the forums, writing fan fics, assembling Lion Parties, telling your great-grandmother's parrot about the movies, setting up YouTube accounts and all the fan devotion that goes without thanks and without notice.
I'm a long time lurker of this site, but I'm deciding to actually comment on this. I loved the movie. After awhile, you learn to see books to movie adaptations differently. I knew about the changes that were going to be made, so that didn't surprise me. I think they did keep the heart of the book. At the end, I cried. I believe Lucy was sad. She was kind of bawling. Edmond is a boy. I'm stereotyping and am saying that is why he didn't cry. He did look very serious though. Also, Peter and Susan didn't cry. So yeah, I thought the movie was really good. I'm hoping that my positive comment will help people be encouraged. You just have to remember that it isn't a straight perfect adaption from the book. Just enjoy if for what it is. Oh, and I absolutely loved Eustace. He made me excited for Silver Chair, and that is one of my least favorite of the books.
sorry for double posting but I forgot to finish one of my sentences. Peter and Susan didn't cry at the end of Prince Caspian. They were sad, yes, but they knew that it was okay. I'm sure Aslan told them similar things that he told Lucy and Edmond.So Lucy and Edmond are sad that they aren't going back to Narnia, but it is really Aslan they'd miss, and Aslan is in our world, so that makes them feel a little better.
Thanks for your encouragement! And I'm also excited about the role of Jill. I believe that Eustace and Jill will bring fresh elements to the series. And personally, despite the visual effects, I think BBC's SC is a great success. I really hope that the film maker will learn from it and not just invent new plots because BBC's SC handles the characters really well.
I'm going to see it later today, with my mum and granny. I'm sorry to hear that glumpuddle didn't like it, it's always sad when you're excited for something and then it doesn't meet expectations, but I have a feeling that I myself will like it very much (I have a bit of a six sense about these things; I can usual tell from a trailer in itself if a movie with suit my tastes or not) and will be cheering for SC next. SAIL ON VDT. SOOOOOO EXCITED!
Draw your own conclusion, I respect glumPuddle and all but people need to stop seeing him as the know-all be-all of this movie. It seems people agree with him heartily right away, or grow anxious at his bad comments. I'm sorry he didn't enjoy it, I really am, and again I respect his thoughts. But there are others who have greatly enjoyed the movie, myself included. Not everyone will have the same experience, so you shouldn't be so worried about it because he didn't like it. What about Tirian, admin here, he loved it- why not look at the positive and the negative alike?
You might just be surprised in the end. All respects once again to glumPuddle.
the film is wonderful! I was there yesterday! I wanna see it again and again! and in the end…i cry! Lucy is changed!first she was cute. now she was a teenager! she ded things wrong! that was new for me. But the acting is so realy good!( sorry for my english.. it's not perfect) 🙁
well, what would you all rather have?these movies with a misconception when it comes to adaptation or the mockery it gets from films like "Epic movie"? I think it'd be totally better to stick to this 'coz sometimes what we want to bargain for isn't totally what we get in the end…however many flaws the movie had, I still love it(the book and movie), and so did the people I went with to watch it:though they TOTALLY had no sense of what the feeling was like being a bit disappointed when it comes to the film adaptation…but then again, it's the director's eyes at work in the film, and that's how he saw it…just beginning to wonder though:what would Andrew Adamson's view be like if HE directed this one?just thinking…and please, don't stop loving it just because of the flaws:it's still based on the book we all love and root for today
Do not believe ANYONE here or there!(even people who think themself greater than the others!)GO, watch the movie! and make your own statements!! You´ll love it, you´ll like, you´ll hate it OR NOT!!! so forget about all this and watch the movie for YOURSELF!! make YOUR own judgemts!!
I agree with you! im hoping the movie will be as good as the book, but they cant always do that. they have to make it different to make it interesting to non fans of the book. and it would be copy right if they did it just like the book. im going to see it today at 1:20 an i cant wait!!
Not sure when I'm going to see it but I do plan on seeing it. After seeing Lord of the Rings years ago and the various Harry Potter films, to me the most important thing about a movie adaptation is if it keeps the heart of the film, not if its 100% accurate. There are things about a book that just won't work in a movie and things that a general audience who hasn't read the book wouldn't understand/enjoy.
Lets remember that while it IS important to please the fans, you can't please everybody. There's always SOMEONE who doesn't like it (just like with the recent Star Trek movie – most people like it but there are a few die-hards who for whatever reason don't, I'm a die-hard Trekkie and I love it).
When it comes down to it, the most important thing isn't so much that Narnia fans accept it as a faithful adaptation (though that is important) but that the general movie-going public accepts it. Because if it only targets Narnia fans, just like Star Trek Nemesis, which only targeted Star Trek fans (and there are probably far more Trekkies than Narnia fans) it'll fail and this will be game over for this Narnia series. I sincerely hope that this does well so that we can see Silver Chair. I would love for this film series to go beyond what the BBC series did years ago and actually finish the series.
Ha… sure wish my area had a midnight screening. :\
I really enjoyed Dawn Treader. It's old fashioned, keyed up, technicolor style suits a children's fantasy world. It reminded me a little of Oz and the movie Stardust. It's smaller in scale, sentimental and romantic. All this separates Narnia's imagined world from reality. I suppose that all could make this less commercial and a movie that's not for everyone. It knows what it is and doesn't pretend to be anything but that. To me it was perfect escapist kid fantasy.
I was heartbroken. It felt really shallow. All the depth from the book was gone. The editing was very very choppy, they sped through the story. The dialogue was cheesy and over-acted. All the important themes of the book were reduced to easter eggs for eagle-eyes fans.
At best: A mildly entertaining but forgettable film, and a very poor adaptation.
You are soo soo wrong Glumpuddle, Im sorry you felt that way, I expect you went in Expecting lemons, and so thats what you got! EVERYONE please dont be fooled by negative comments! it was a brilliant film… Not perfect, (But what film is???) Really Enjoyable, Memorable, Eventful, Magical! You will be happy to see it 🙂
I went in very hopeful because of positive reviews from fans. Every so often during the film, my brother would start groaning and I would say "Don't give up on it! I'm telling you, it's going to get good." That exchange happened three or four times throughout the film. Finally, near the end, I gave up.
The story speeds by so fast there is no time to develop anything in the characters. Out of nowhere, at the end Caspian seems to have some inner conflict about his father which is just mentioned once or twice in the movie.
Reep's intense longing and desire for Aslan's Country is gone. It is mentioned once or twice that he would like to go there and that is it. He talks about it the same way you would talk about wanting to go to Disney World.
The thing that shocked me the most was the ending. I had such high expectations for it. But they never set up Reep’s desperate desire for Aslan’s Country, so the scene where he finally got there had no emotional impact. The heartbreak from discovering they will never come back to Narnia was also totally gone. Lucy had apparently read the script, because she already knew they weren’t coming back to Narnia.
I kept feeling like the movie was meant for 4-8 year olds. Everything is spoon-fed to the audience, and the filmmakers always seemed intent on keeping the story moving…to the point of being absurd.
I just had to respond to this comment. No, jag, no. Glumpuddle actually went into the theater expecting (or at least hoping) that the movie would be good, and he really believed that the ending was going to be good. If you read his full review, he has perfect justifications for his disappointment with the film.
Please don't say stuff like, "Everybody, don't be fooled by negative comments!" That is basically like saying, "The opinions of people who liked the film are the only ones that matter," or, "I liked it, so everyone who didn't like it is obviously wrong."
I personally never rely on other peoples thoughts about movies. They usually don't agree with mine. So when I see a negative review of a film that I want to see, I tend to ignore it, go see the film and make my own judgement. Of course most of the films I watch are in the realm of really bad films anyway so most of them have gotten bad reviews.
Yes, you should never let someone else influence your opinion of a film. It is what it is. Go see it and draw your own conclusions. 🙂
I watched yesterday …
And it was wonderful!
I'm so sorry, gP! I think everybody here knows how much the books mean to you. I've been playing with the idea of not seeing the film at all, because I'm afraid it will spoil the book. For some reason I don't read the LWW and PC anymore and I don't want the same thing happening with Dawn Treader. Still, I'd like to support the movies and go see it, though I have considerably lower expectations now that you didn't like it.
i totally agree with glumpuddle. The film was too fast for anyone to understand it. It had alack of charcters' emotions. Although. the magic of the lion, the witch and the wardrobe is restored. The story remains unexplained for the person who hasn't read the book. The running time was also quiet short. i guess a bit bigger running time would have really helped. i never new when eustace got converted to a dragon or or why are they on this journey. I guess it was a average adaption matches with prince caspian but you can't compare it to the first one at all what the creaters wanted to do. I will rate it 3 out of 5.
OH MY GOSH! SO AWESOME! SO CHRISTIAN!… just the way i like it. 😉
not very consistent with the book, but still VERY NARNIAN.
love the comedy and action! character development was great too. poulter was amazing!!! henley's acting was a bit disappointing, though.
…i cried.
Aslan’s crucial lines had no impact because they did not set them up. For example: In the book, the kids are heartbroken when they discover they won’t be coming back to Narnia. They are heartbroken because they will never get to see Aslan again. But then Aslan corrects them, he is in their world to but has “another name.”
In the movie, Lucy actually says “we’re not coming back, are we?” She fully expected to never return, and they don’t seem all that heartbroken about it. Edmund especially seems “whatever” about not coming back.
All the crucial lines were there, but their impact was gone. So there was little point in including them at all.
The first two films have a little depth. Good characterization, and pretty good directing. You walk away with more than just 2 hours of entertainment.
VDT is just pure mindless entertainment to munch popcorn to. Watch it, be mildly entertained, and then forget about it.
I saw it at midnight, I loved it! Very nicely done and there were tears 😛
Yes I understand that, and I appologise, the way I worded my comment was not very good, but one post like that Is enough to stop people from seeing the movie for themselves, and deciding if they like it or not… atleast give the film its first week before spreading negativity … because there really will be people who are swayed by what comments they read.
i can not wait to see it
more green clouds and i'll die ….
However … Great !!!!!!!!!!
Really, c'mon glumpuddle. I mean they have a new director and basically staff as well. And its hard to get an awesome movie like Narnia to be right smack dab on the book no movie really does stay with the book and I thoight narnia had done a pretty good job of trying to stick with it. Just give it some time, not trying to be mean or anything you have the right to your opinion but let's just let it play out. Long Live Aslan
hi glumpuddle im also very sad you didnt like it i was praying so much that you would but i have two questions for you which i know are weird but still….1.how did they squeeze susan and peter in narnia three and 2. are you a christian :)???
That's pretty sad. I just may have my own opinion though. I am very worried though because at Rotten Tomatoes it had an approval of about 49%(maybe it even dropped). But like I said I may have to see for myself.
They took The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe and adapted it to movie format in such a way that it was very close to and true to the book, which is of course a tried and true classic. The things they did change were interesting and very much in keeping with what was actually indicated in the book (the bombing raid helped explain why the children were sent away, they illustrated a key battle that is mentioned and explicitly indicated in the book, etc.). They took Prince Caspian, significantly rewrote Lewis's story and changed the whole tone/atmosphere of it, and then were surprised when it didn't do as well as they expected. Now they take Voyage of the Dawn Treader, invent their own plot about unexplained, uncontextualized (and frankly a bit inane sounding) "green mists" and a cliched quest for swords to fight evil, and the film is receiving some very mixed (occasionally scathing) reviews.
When will these people realize that they are not better storytellers than C.S. Lewis? They stick to Lewis, who was original and unique, they have a blockbuster. They come up with some hackneyed plot of their own, then they have everyone comparing what should be an original film to The Lord of the Rings (Lite), Ghostbusters, Pirates of the Caribbean, Lost, and Harry Potter 1 & 2. So what, are they going to turn A Horse and His Boy into a cross between The Prince of Persia, The Mummy, and Aladdin, with a dash of LOTR on the side? Don't change Lewis unless the changes are 1) necessary and 2) an improvement. *Some* of the changes may have been necessary, but almost none of them were an improvement. They have violated this simple rule two times in a row now. I hope they *finally* learn their lesson with The Silver Chair, which is a very straightforward story to adapt. I personally hope they bring onboard an entirely new team of screenwriters (provided, of course, they actually get good ones).
However, I hope neither my negativity nor Glumpuddle's review will stop anyone from seeing the film. This is still an adaptation of a great story, even if does stray too much and speed through the story too rapidly. And, after all, everyone's tastes are different. Some reviewers, including Roger Ebert and Leonard Maltin (!), are pretty positive about the film. So that's something. And, whatever my complaints are, I really, really hope this makes enough to greenlight The Silver Chair and to keep the series rolling.
I have a friend who hasn't read the narnia books and she infact has watched it before me…..and she wasn't confuse with the storyline and she loved the story…especially the effects as well as the different adventures in each island and on the boat….but she was upset she didn't see much peter and susan…i know they are not in the book…remember the michael apted quote on the future of the narnia series…anyways i will review the film as soon as i have watched it…REALLY EXCITED!!!
*blinks* now. I'm. really. concerned :/ Well, I get to see tomorrow for myself! 😉
I felt the same way you did, it really did seem shallow and rushed. The end scene with Aslan was brilliant, but it felt like the movie hadn't built up to that point, like a sudden flash of brilliance that was out of character with what had preceeded it. The emotion of the scene was just right, but it seemed as though we hadn't actually gone far enough with the characters to warrant that kind of an ending, know what I mean?
1. That would be a spoiler.
2. I believe he is, but how is that relevant to him liking the movie or not?
will anyone tell me whether Lucy's prayer was in the movie? Are they brave enough? That's one thing I've been dying for from this movie: Lucy's Prayer. If it's gone, it's going to be hard to be happy with the film…
I thought Georgie's acting was her best yet. One of the highlights in an otherwise merely okay movie.
I even saw Glumpuddle give it a chance! 🙂
Wow…that's too bad. I was expecting you to dislike parts of it, but not to hate it. My expectations are rock-bottom right now. But that's good. I still can't wait to see it. If I expect nothing when I see it, surely I'll get something. 🙂
My main concern right now is whether the public will like it. If the movie doesn't make money and people don't like it, we can say goodbye to Silver Chair and the rest of the movies. That's my darkest fear right now. If the Narnia series is dropped, THEN I will be heartbroken. (Although if SC was ruined, that would be pretty traumatic too) So I'll be feeling pretty stressed this weekend. I guess I'll try to distract myself with Christmas. 🙂
man, I just read Glumpuddle's review… 🙁 I never felt more disappointed, heartbroken and felt like crying 🙁 Well, I'll post a review on my blog tomorrow when I get back. and I'll compare it to Narnia now vs. BBC Narnia. We'll see what we see and what happens…
…in the United States. 😉
How great that she liked it!
Still, I also find the green mist and the seven swords unnecessary… would have loved to see a film that didn't change that – I love the idea that they have been called upon for personal reasons and that Caspian simply wanted to invite his father's friends back to Narnia.
But, I will see the movie, and I think I will like it for what it is, but I will always return to the book again and again and read it as the classic it is.
Oh gosh, I don't know what to expect anymore, so Iam just not really putting my heart or mind set an anything =P I think I am going to cry one way or another, however… =P
FINALLY!!! I am so excited!
Well said, LT & Gp. My thots entirely. (Pumped to see DT, but even the trailers portend that of which you speak, & I remember the screen-writers' arrogance which I bemoaned in PC)
I've forced my whole family (who are not all Narniacs) to see each movie with me! But it's getting harder if they don't Rock. I know I'll love it & enjoy even a shallow ride: cuz I can retreat to the books. But others may yawn.
Hate to be hokey, but I pray for new filmakers who are "True Believers"- who GET Clive! Who get his brilliance & maybe even share his vision. (That's asking too much) How about about some innovators– who can take us to Narnia, not Hollywood… who still have a childlike Wonder for truth & fantasy, and a pioneer's Hunger to create something unique & endearing… and who can defer to Lewis' imagination.
I. Am. So. Freaking. EXCITED!!!!!!!!!!!! *RUNS AROUND HOUSE SCREAMING* I'm a little nervous after GlumPuddle's review…..oh, who am i kidding, I was so dissapionted. But hey, I'm just going to hold my breath and wait to see it tomorrow (yes, I know, I have to wait THAT long 😉 ) and see what i think.
For now………….. THIS IS SO AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *faints with excitedness overload*
I'm excited to be getting to see it in just a matter of hours (after waiting for 2 and a half years)….but I have to admit my expectations are really low.
I know, it's so hard because we've waited this long, braving all the reviews, changes, and long, endless days of waiting, and then we hear from some that it isn't really that great, and then from others that it's amazing. I'm with ya, brother (or sister ;))
Here's to all Narnia fans on this site: Watch the movie anyway. There's no guarantee you will enjoy it, but for your own sake make this day worth the trouble of designing crazy avatars, recording podcasts, fighting on the forums, writing fan fics, assembling Lion Parties, telling your great-grandmother's parrot about the movies, setting up YouTube accounts and all the fan devotion that goes without thanks and without notice.
I'm going to see the movie in a couple of days, then i'll decide whether I like it or not. I'm not going to base my opinion off of what others say.
You lucky guys! 🙁 I have to wait till 25th of December, when it arrives to Finland.
I was worried but I really think they captured Narnia's deeper magic. I can't wait to go back!
Keep waiting with full expectation. VDT will sail into China on Jan. 7th. Four weeks to go!
No matter what the film will turn to be, the Silver Chair needs all our supports to be broken.
I'm a long time lurker of this site, but I'm deciding to actually comment on this. I loved the movie. After awhile, you learn to see books to movie adaptations differently. I knew about the changes that were going to be made, so that didn't surprise me. I think they did keep the heart of the book. At the end, I cried. I believe Lucy was sad. She was kind of bawling. Edmond is a boy. I'm stereotyping and am saying that is why he didn't cry. He did look very serious though. Also, Peter and Susan didn't cry. So yeah, I thought the movie was really good. I'm hoping that my positive comment will help people be encouraged. You just have to remember that it isn't a straight perfect adaption from the book. Just enjoy if for what it is. Oh, and I absolutely loved Eustace. He made me excited for Silver Chair, and that is one of my least favorite of the books.
Wow Glumpuddle.
I know I usually lock horns with you, but this……
"Yes, you should never let someone else influence your opinion of a film. It is what it is. Go see it and draw your own conclusions."
I have so much more respect for you now. 😀
I'm very sorry you didn't like the movie though. 🙁
sorry for double posting but I forgot to finish one of my sentences. Peter and Susan didn't cry at the end of Prince Caspian. They were sad, yes, but they knew that it was okay. I'm sure Aslan told them similar things that he told Lucy and Edmond.So Lucy and Edmond are sad that they aren't going back to Narnia, but it is really Aslan they'd miss, and Aslan is in our world, so that makes them feel a little better.
Thanks for your encouragement! And I'm also excited about the role of Jill. I believe that Eustace and Jill will bring fresh elements to the series. And personally, despite the visual effects, I think BBC's SC is a great success. I really hope that the film maker will learn from it and not just invent new plots because BBC's SC handles the characters really well.
I'm going to see it later today, with my mum and granny. I'm sorry to hear that glumpuddle didn't like it, it's always sad when you're excited for something and then it doesn't meet expectations, but I have a feeling that I myself will like it very much (I have a bit of a six sense about these things; I can usual tell from a trailer in itself if a movie with suit my tastes or not) and will be cheering for SC next. SAIL ON VDT. SOOOOOO EXCITED!
Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can't wait to see it tonight!
Someone who has seen it, I have a question: Is the 7 swords and green mist a nice touch?
SOOOOOOOO excited but I have to wait for tomorrow.
Draw your own conclusion, I respect glumPuddle and all but people need to stop seeing him as the know-all be-all of this movie. It seems people agree with him heartily right away, or grow anxious at his bad comments. I'm sorry he didn't enjoy it, I really am, and again I respect his thoughts. But there are others who have greatly enjoyed the movie, myself included. Not everyone will have the same experience, so you shouldn't be so worried about it because he didn't like it. What about Tirian, admin here, he loved it- why not look at the positive and the negative alike?
You might just be surprised in the end. All respects once again to glumPuddle.
the film is wonderful! I was there yesterday! I wanna see it again and again! and in the end…i cry! Lucy is changed!first she was cute. now she was a teenager! she ded things wrong! that was new for me. But the acting is so realy good!( sorry for my english.. it's not perfect) 🙁
well, what would you all rather have?these movies with a misconception when it comes to adaptation or the mockery it gets from films like "Epic movie"? I think it'd be totally better to stick to this 'coz sometimes what we want to bargain for isn't totally what we get in the end…however many flaws the movie had, I still love it(the book and movie), and so did the people I went with to watch it:though they TOTALLY had no sense of what the feeling was like being a bit disappointed when it comes to the film adaptation…but then again, it's the director's eyes at work in the film, and that's how he saw it…just beginning to wonder though:what would Andrew Adamson's view be like if HE directed this one?just thinking…and please, don't stop loving it just because of the flaws:it's still based on the book we all love and root for today
I can't see it today because I have a meeting.
Do not believe ANYONE here or there!(even people who think themself greater than the others!)GO, watch the movie! and make your own statements!! You´ll love it, you´ll like, you´ll hate it OR NOT!!! so forget about all this and watch the movie for YOURSELF!! make YOUR own judgemts!!
I agree with you! im hoping the movie will be as good as the book, but they cant always do that. they have to make it different to make it interesting to non fans of the book. and it would be copy right if they did it just like the book. im going to see it today at 1:20 an i cant wait!!
me too 🙁
Not sure when I'm going to see it but I do plan on seeing it. After seeing Lord of the Rings years ago and the various Harry Potter films, to me the most important thing about a movie adaptation is if it keeps the heart of the film, not if its 100% accurate. There are things about a book that just won't work in a movie and things that a general audience who hasn't read the book wouldn't understand/enjoy.
Lets remember that while it IS important to please the fans, you can't please everybody. There's always SOMEONE who doesn't like it (just like with the recent Star Trek movie – most people like it but there are a few die-hards who for whatever reason don't, I'm a die-hard Trekkie and I love it).
When it comes down to it, the most important thing isn't so much that Narnia fans accept it as a faithful adaptation (though that is important) but that the general movie-going public accepts it. Because if it only targets Narnia fans, just like Star Trek Nemesis, which only targeted Star Trek fans (and there are probably far more Trekkies than Narnia fans) it'll fail and this will be game over for this Narnia series. I sincerely hope that this does well so that we can see Silver Chair. I would love for this film series to go beyond what the BBC series did years ago and actually finish the series.