‘Dawn Treader’ Week 3 Box Office Report
The Voyage of the Dawn Treader came in fourth over the Christmas weekend box office. Little Fockers opened at $30.8 million followed by True Grit at $24.9 million and Tron Legacy which made $19.2 million in its second weekend.
Dawn Treader grossed another $9.5 million in its third weekend bringing its domestic total to $62.6 million. Dawn Treader also continues to do fairly well overseas where it pulled in over $40 million throughout last week, bringing its international total to $165 million, and its worldwide total to $231 million.
Drat. VDT is now in 6th place, below Tangled, in the box office rankings.
@ Freya and Anhun (incase comments mess up):)
*closes eyes very tightly* please pick Patrick Stewart for Puddleglum! please pick Patrick Stewart for Puddleglum! please pick Patrick Stewart for Puddleglum! please pick Patrick Stewart for Puddleglum! please pick Patrick Stewart for Puddleglum! please pick Patrick Stewart for Puddleglum! =)
They'd have to do a really good job if they picked Johhny Depp to not ruin Puddleglum though. If they did him right, I'd be okay. But I'd personally hang Fox if they ruined Puddleglum by casting JD. The guy always gets stupid roles (Jack Sparrow *rolls eyes* was an idiot) and… did he play the mad hatter? He's so dark-ish. He gives me the creeps. Wouldn't Johhny Depp just make Puddleglum a joke? I think that's the most cynical thing I've ever said on here 🙁 Goodness… I'm sorry. I feel like such a jerk now… Hope I didn't hurt anyone's feelings by saying Johhny Depp is creepy.
But does *no-one* else know who Patrick Stewart is?! Don't ya think he'd do a great Puddleglum? =) Oh well, I'll live! 🙂
I heartily agree with the Bloom idea but please, no Bloom\Depp together in Narnia film. Unless they want to retitle it "The Pirates of the Caribbean invade Narnia".
A couple or so years back, I read something on IMDB about "Out of the Silent Planet" being in pre-production, with a screenplay written (or to be written) by someone with the last name of "Franks," but I can't find it now. Maybe it has been retitled "Space Otters of the War Planet," or has been canceled, or maybe I was having an elaborate hallucination, but I would swear that it was there at one time.
I am more uneasy about a film adaptation of the Space Trilogy than I am about the Narnia films. At the heart of all three of the books is an indictment of many of the easy, lazy assumptions about the nature of Reality that have become the cultural standard since the end of the Second World War, and particularly in the last fifty years. I suspect that none would make it to the screen without substantial "revision" and "correction," and "That Hideous Strength" would probably be gutted outright.
But I'm solidly on board with the idea of a film of "Till We Have Faces" if you could find a director who not only understood what the book was really about, but sympathized with it–as well as find a first-rate actress who would not only not mind hiding her face for most of the movie, but who would agree to be made up as ugly when the veil was off.
But really, I think "Till We Have Faces" is begging to be made into an opera, if you could find the right composer. I nominate Krzysztof Penderecki! (And quickly–he's 83.)
I *went* to vote, but you had to be a member. I'm not setting up an account that I'm not going to use again! 🙂 But it's not Narniaweb's fault it's not up here 🙂 Narniaweb *rocks*! They do a good job already and put up with us commenters… =) But I did *try* 🙂
Correction to the above note: he's 77 (weak math skills). That gives us a little more time . . .
I think we're enough to give anyone a headache. I mean, we could be a little kinder about the way we present what we want to say. Right?
Christ is our rolemodle. He spoke truth in love. If we want to say something, we can say, just remember love 🙂 Everyone is going to have opinions, and obviously not everyone's going to agree… but you're showing God's love if you deal with it lovingly and kindly. I don't know that arguing and hurting people's feelings is worth another movie. Not everyone's being rude… but, you know, does it really matter how so and so thinks about the movie's box office numbers vs. someone else's take on it?
I'm not perfect either– I'm not kind or loving. I stick my foot in my mouth often enough. I'm a dirty rotten sinner. All I'm saying is, when you're saying stuff, remember that God knows every word you're saying. He'll hold you acocuntable for it. Besides I'm sure Narniaweb doesn't enjoy the messes that spill out here sometimes 😉 They gave us a wonderful gift of a family friendly site, let's give them the gift of being kind and loving 😀
And I'm sorry to anyone and everyone that I've ever offended on this site! I'm sorry if I've ever made you mad or hurt your feelings! I hope you forgive me. You guys feel like real fellow Narnians 🙂 I consider you people: 'Narnians' the same as the Narnia heroes 🙂 Happy New Year's Everyone!! 🙂
Ive wondered if God wanted it out of the hands of Disney-maybe ther's a purpose in how things are develolping-
and I'm not saying 'don't discuss things' I'm just saying 'discuss it in love' 🙂
reep, why is your name in red? R U the REAL reepicheep?
wow, comedian, you sound like Pippin! I just saw that movie yesterday!!
how do they expect EVERYONE to get to the theater the first weekend? i have a life
lol, this would be a weird choice of website for someone who doesn't like Narnia fans.
i bet it was anne rice regarding the vampire chronicles
[Anhun sighs in exasperation] Honestly Shelly! You're not going to find the real Reepicheep hanging out on a Narnia website. He's off in Aslan's country! What fantasy land are YOU living in? 😛
To answer your question though, people with red names have their own websites. If you click on the name, you go to the website.
Definitely more than 6 weeks, but possibly as few as 7, it's hard to say. Some unsuccessful movies hang on for a really long time, down to the bitter end.
baloney, Non, our city's critic panned Star Wars when it first came out in 77, and he is a nationally published movie critic and college prof, boy, diid he end up eating crow. critics are just easily pedjudiced people like anyone else. look at the anti christian bias spewed at these movies, which have been as secularized as possible.
LOL, I totally forgot about that. Also, if we have Depp with Helena Bonham Carter, it would be "Alice in Narnia" or "Sweeny Todd, the demon barber of Narnia."
EVERY BODY:i was just KIDDING when i said johnny depp days ago!!!! ( i really want andrew adamson!)
hey that was pretty funny! actually orlando looks great for rillian, cause he looks like ben barnes
I know who Patrick Stewart is, and I'll concede that he's a great actor (loved him as Piccard and Scrooge), but I don't think he would suit for Puddleglum. First of all, he's too old. Puddleglum should be middle aged at the most, Sir Patrick is 70. Also, I think he would bring too much gravitas to the role. Puddleglum has a decidedly comical edge. Even when he's being gloomy. In the book Jill points out that the gloom and doom is an affectation, and that he's perfectly happy underneath.
The present world wide total is 259 million. With about 60% going to FOX/Walden that means they are getting close to their production budget of 150. But there is still the massive advertising budget to cover. There is still some hope for the future of Narnia.
We are the Geek army! Nations quake before our fearsome power!
@ Shelly: I am of divine race. I know neither age nor death :D. (name that Narnia quote)
A lady doesn't reveal her age 😉 , but I'm an adult, if that's what you're driving at.
On the contrary, shooting the messenger can be a lot of fun: there's the satisfaction of confronting the immediate source of dismay with a sudden, visceral release of anger, as well as the illusion of having done something about the problem. Getting rid of the bodies (as well as suffering the crushing guilt) can be dealt with later.
More seriously, I respectfully disagree with the idea that there is such a thing (on the whole, and with exceptions) as a truly objective film critic. There is not really a lot of training for the job, and even what there is does not necessarily ensure an objective review, as being objective is an ethical decision. Critics come with their own baggage–which they can mistake for objective aesthetic standards–and those that don't, inherit the baggage of the journals they write for. Critics disagree among themselves, and they can change their minds about their critical judgments over time, as their perceptions change and mature (or degenerate). Not many mathematicians shift their opinions about what the square root of 49 is.
Film critics can objectively comment on objectively bad technical elements of film, and should. But a film is more than sum of the technical aspects, which are just the delivery system. At some point or other, a critic has to deal with what the film is about–that is, he (or she) is going to have to make a value judgment about the content–and at that point, the critic is really in no more exalted a position than the average viewer, unless one assumes that critics just have better values. No doubt many critics make that assumption, and mistake their value judgments for objective criticism. But they're wrong. And the more subtle a film is, and the more it challenges certain fundamental assumptions that a critic has never questioned and (more important) does not want to question, the more likely he or she is to be wrong. The criticism at that point ceases to be objective and becomes a homily.
That said: there are objectively observable problems with the movie versions of "Prince Caspian" and "Dawn Treader," largely in the area of story construction. Such problems cripple the delivery systems of the movies, with "Caspian" being the chief offender, in my opinion. Critics who comment on these problems are in no way being "anti-Christian," any more than critics who pointed out the design flaws of the Edsel were being "anti-car."
You know, I had a point in here somewhere, but danged if I can find it now.
Amen!!! Thanks for the reminder! and have a happy new year!
Good Lord, please no Orlando Bloom. He can't act. Plus I think Rilian should be younger.
Plus, let us be realistic here… it is very unlikely that JD would agree to participate in a Narnian film with all the fuzz about the pirates of the Caribbean franchise coming back now. I don't believe he would like to be anywhere else than in the top box office. It is very possible that 'accidental tourist' is listed as 'accidental movie' in his resume.
@Pevensie: No, they wouldn't.
@Shelly: That's simply not true. Audience response has also been extremely mixed. Some people love it, some people hate it, a lot of people love some things about it and not others. If it was getting great word of mouth, it's imdb rating would be considerably higher than 6.7.
And it's not just imdb. Even here on Narniaweb, where, I would imagine, there is a certain amount of bias in FAVOUR of any Narnia movie, if you go to the "I've seen the movie and it was . . ." section of the forums, you'll find the responses are all over the map. Some people are down right giddy, they love it so much. Whereas some people are horrified. In fact, when I finally got around to seeing it, I went it in expecting it to be mediocre, I saw so many negative reviews here on Narniaweb.
Rilian should be somewhere in his 30s. Remember, he is a youngish adult when the green witch captures him. The events of Silver Chair happen 10 years later. Orlando Bloom is 34, which fits the bill quite nicely, I think.
Yeah, box office mojo (a credible, largely unbiased source) actually ran an article entitled "Dawn Treader Makes Waves Overseas."
Basically, VDT's overseas performance is quite respectable, you can't logically argue otherwise. The points that people are debating are as follows:
1. So it doing fine, but it's not yet baffo. Will it ever catch up to PC, for example?
2. Even if it does rake in a ton of ticket sales overseas, is that enough to counterbalance it's poor domestic performance?
@Not of This World: I highly doubt Tribunal has recently spent 155 million . . . I could be wrong though. 😉
haha, i should have known the real reep wouldn't be trolling the internet. except of course now he can use the mouse sized itouch.
haha, i should have known the real reep wouldn't be trolling the internet. except of course now he can use the mouse sized itouch. (does the dawn treader have wireless?)
Again, your Majesty, I must ask: where was the "bias" five years ago? By this "logic", *that* movie should have been as widely trounced as this one is getting, but it received SUBSTANTIALLY higher praise and critical acclaim. *THAT* was a *GOOD* film. *THIS* is a *TERRIBLE* film. Do you see the pattern now? You talk about bias and lack of objectivity amongst the critics? Here's the reasoned analysis and completely unbiased analytical perspectives represented here on ye olde Narniaweb:
It's winter! The weather is bad!
It's summer! Everyone's away on vacation!
Disney's awful marketing!
FOX's awful marketing!
The kids are in school!
The anti-Christian conspiracy!
The planets are misaligned!
Blah blah blah blah blah
Never, ever: "Gee, maybe this film actually stinks…"
Seriously, I look around this site, and I keep hearing Uncle Leo from 'Seinfeld' complaining in the restaurant how his hamburger was undercooked, and the only logical conclusion he can draw is: "The cook must be an anti-Semite!"
It is in the best interests of everyone who loves these books, and who wants to see the films prosper, to stop looking for excuses and crutches to lean against. Good films get good reviews. Bad films get ridiculed, and rightly so. Stop organizing this cruel movement to browbeat your friends and relatives into seeing this dreck, and mobilize an effort to send the message that we want better films. Boy, it'd sure be nice if this place could serve a more useful purpose than to act as a depository of "What went wrong?" theses.
Even the secularization of the films, which you point out, and I agree with, to a certain extent, really works AGAINST the films with critics. Believe it or not, they are smart enough to smell "compromise" when they get a whiff of it, and, whatever their personal feelings regarding faith-based issues and principles, the majority of critics would have a more favorable view of a sincere attempt to represent these values as originally intended, as opposed to an attempt to sanitize them to appeal to a broader audience.
Moze, no critic is perfectly impartial, but, they MUST maintain a professional distance over time, or they don't last long. I'm not maintaining that there are no critics who have personal grudges against Christianity. Only that the vast, vast majority of them are professional enough to separate the message from how well the message is delivered, and that their opinions of the film's merit as a film are far more legitimate than "Did you like it?" exit polls. If you cherry pick one or two specific reviews, yes, I suppose you can discern anything as "biased". But, overall, the *consensus* of the critical pool will, ultimately, represent a sufficiently objective view of the work being evaluated.
And, of course, there are other big release films this season with no spiritual/Christian content, whatsoever, that are getting raked over the coals even more so than 'Dawn Treader'. I just don't see the conspiracy.
Yeah, I agree with you, elanor. Jill and Eustace are not supposed to be friends before SC, in fact, Esutace was one of the bullies who made fun of Jill before he changed. I think it was rather funny, the foreshadowing they did, but it doesn't really make sense why Jill would be there when she and Eustace aren't even on friendly terms at that point.
Already at close to 77 million domestically and 263 million total worldwide. For perspective: PC cost 70 million more than VDT, so financially/domestically VDT is already doing better and with probably another 90 days to run, though obviously not at the same pace. It could pull in another 40 million domestically. Also for comparison, Golden Compass cost 25 million more to produce, with obviously more spent of marketing, and its domestic sales totalled only 70 million. VDT is leaving that number in the rear view mirror and if word of mouth continues moving in the direction it has, it could even double it. If the domestic/worldwide ratios hold up, it could get close to 400 million and thus do much better than PC which, again, cost 70 million more to produce. Also, remember that marketing costs are spread among several interests. I've researched this for several days and I've seen no credible source for the 100 million marketing cost number thrown around. I've seen one indicating 50 million, though I can't vouch for it either. I live in a large metropolitan area with 2 fairly large cities and I have seen surprisingly very little promotion and I assume it reflects the promotion across the U.S. (Big mistake in my opinion) Unless they are pouring huge boat loads of money into overseas marketing, I would consider the 50 million figure to be closer to reality.
Already at close to 77 million domestically and 263 million total worldwide. For perspective: PC cost 70 million more than VDT, so financially/domestically VDT is already doing better and with probably another 90 days to run, though obviously not at the same pace. It could pull in another 40 million domestically. Also for comparison, Golden Compass cost 25 million more to produce, with obviously more spent of marketing, and its domestic sales totalled only 70 million. VDT is leaving that number in the rear view mirror and if word of mouth continues moving in the direction it has, it could even double it. If the domestic/worldwide ratios hold up, it could get close to 400 million and thus do much better than PC which, again, cost 70 million more to produce. Also, remember that marketing costs are spread among several interests. I’ve researched this for several days and I’ve seen no credible source for the 100 million marketing cost number thrown around. I’ve seen one indicating 50 million, though I can’t vouch for it either. I live in a large metropolitan area with 2 fairly large cities and I have seen surprisingly very little promotion and I assume it reflects the promotion across the U.S. (Big mistake in my opinion) Unless they are pouring huge boat loads of money into overseas marketing, I would consider the 50 million figure to be closer to reality.
Though, the thought just occurred to me that astromen might not age as quickly as normal humans.
I didn't see any conspiracy, either—that was my point in that last paragraph. Pointing out objective flaws in any work of art is only pointing out flaws in a work of art, not an assault on the work's ideology. And the more I believe in the ideology being sold by the work, the more I want those flaws NOT to be there.
I haven't hidden the fact that I have, at best, mixed feelings about the movie versions of both "Caspian" and "Dawn Treader" and feel that the story is muddled up in both, and I don't believe that manufacturing a success for a lesser film by deliberate repeat viewing to that purpose will do anything but encourage the film makers in thinking that they have been on the right track with the past two movies. My point about the purported objectivity of critics was strictly academic, and related to the Narnia movies only by their being in the same post–but I think that that horse has been pretty thoroughly beaten to death by now.
I think we all need to fess up to the fact that we don't have a clue how much they spent on marketing. We don't know how much different marketing ploys cost, we don't know what they've been doing around the world, and we can't find a reliable source to tell us.
Hm, can Johnny Depp ever be wrong for any movie? But I totally get the "Pirates" dilemma and would rather keep Orlando as Rilian, he's perfect in both looks and age, agree that they would likely not afford him, but remember, we're dreaming here, so that doesn't matter. No idea who this Patrick Stewart is and Christopher Lee creeps me out like whoa, his voice sends shivers down my spine. Can I please have Gary Oldman in there somewhere instead? Thanks.
Sorry, Moze, the majority of that post was not directed at you, just the one paragraph. The last paragraph was just an afterthought. The intent of that long-winded rant was merely to try and boil things down to essentials, not to beat anything to death. I like horses.
GUYS!!
Domestic: $76,641,000
+ Foreign: $186,047,072
= Worldwide: $262,688,072
looking good. wihthout a doubt am sure silver chair will be made!!
Domestic: $76,641,000
Foreign: $186,047,072
= Worldwide: $262,688,072
looking good right?? am sure silver chair will be made 🙂
No offense taken, NNC. I like horses, too, and used to ride often in my younger, more limber days–which may explain why "The Horse and His Boy" is one of the Chronicles I re-read most often.
I'm curious as to why you appear to have a photo of Gerald Ford in what I am reluctant to call your avatar, as I have heard that word enough in the past months to suit me for a lifetime.
I barely saw any advertising where I live either in The US. At least for pc I saw billboards and posters on buses. I am still hoping for the best, even though it looks like vdt has slipped behind yogi and tangled the last couple of days.
Pepper, I know what you mean . The first impression I got was that it cost like 80 $ to register, but it doesn't ! They just explain it badly.
It took literaly 30 seconds to do it, for free, at this link :
https://secure.boxofficemojo.com/users/?page=signup&p=.htm
I did not even have to check my e-mail. I voted instantly right after. You know producers are going to be checking these numbers, and the amount of people on this site could totally turn them around !
I've voted too. Interesting thing about polls. Check this out. In one of the polls
How many times will you see 'The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader' in theaters?
53.6% No interest in seeing it in theaters.
33.6% Once and I'm done.
6.5% Twice would be nice.
3.5% Four times, maybe more.
2.2% Three times the charm.
0.7% Walked out during the first time.
1,900 users polled.
If you think about it just as is, that would mean that out of 1900 people approx. 1018 people would not watch VOTD in the cinema and the rest 882 (minus the ones that walked out of if) would watch.
However, if one considers "viewing", which is what really matters, one needs to consider that part of the people who would watch VODT says they would watch more than one time.
So, even though 1018 would not go to the cinema, there would still be approx. 1277 "viewings".
Keep up the optimism!
take care Narnian fans, and Happy New Year to you all!
That is, indeed, the 38th President of the United States you see before you. I assure you, it was completely unintentional, and requires a little explanation. It's actually an avatar I use at a hockey forum devoted to all things related to my beloved Edmonton Oilers. They use the same avatar service as Narniaweb (it's linked to email addresses). So, when I post a comment here, he shows up. When I was a little boy, the owner of the team at the time was very close friends with President Ford, and he would take the players every year to the Fords' retirement home in Rancho Mirage, CA for a barbeque and some golf. Over the years, the players sort of adopted the President and Mrs. Ford, and vice-versa. It's just my little tribute to happier times, and to the team's most famous fan.
Good point, Lewis Tolkien. If more people are reading about Narnia because of the movies, I think that is simply wonderful.
Hmm… these are some very interesting ideas everyone is coming up with!
Will Poulter, I think everyone has agreed, is the only person to play Eustace. There can't possibly be anyone else who would do nearly as well as him. Full stop.
I admit that I would not at all be happy if Orlando Bloom was cast as Rilian. We want people to like this movie for the story, not for the inevitable fangirl motivations. No, it is my personal opinion that someone less well known and a bit more manly to play Rilian (I'm sorry, but doesn't he look just a bit like a girl? Maybe that's just because I've seen him in LotR, but still).
Now, to Puddleglum. Rowan Atkinson would play him perfectly!!! That is an absolutely brilliant idea, Anhun! Look at him in Johnny English. Risking his life for the good of his country while at the same time being utterly hilarious. Yes, he should definitely get the part.
For Jill, a Narniawebber (can't remember who :s) suggested Eliza Bennett. I reckon she would be a really good Jill. From Inkheart, we saw that she could act well, yet she's by no means a family name. It would work out really well. The only problem is that she and Will both have blone hair; they may choose a girl with darker hair for a bit of contrast.
I have no idea who would play the Lady of the Green Kirtle, as long as it isn't Tilda! Tilda's a great actress and all, but I'm getting kind of tired of her appearing in every single movie. I always pictured the Green Witch having dark hair- brown or black.
For Caspian, it might be interesting for Ben Barnes to play him made up to look a lot older. I think it could be done. If you look at the movie 'The Forbidden Kingdom' (great martial arts but no plot whatsoever), you'll see they did a great job to make Jackie Chan look positively ancient. It could work.
I personally do not think that Tim Burton would be the best director for SC. He always mades dark, quirky sort of films, and SC isn't in my mind exactly quirky. I like AA because he generally starts movies off with a 'bang' (the blitz in LWW, Caspian flees in PC), and I quite like that. It gets you interested. However, he would most likely make some huge, full blown romance between Eustace and Jill, which I would not at all like as they are just friends, and kids for that matter too. Michael Apted was quite good, but not really amazing.
Still, I suppose we should wait to see if SC is greenlit first (fingers crossed!) Sorry for this long, boring speculation, but that's just my 2 cents on the matter of casting! Have a great New Year, everyone!
I watched Narnia today for the fifth time! I thought I would boycott all Disney movies since after they dropped Narnia, and instead of spending my money to any of their movies,I spent it by watching Narnia several times. I might watch it again to make it 7!!! And no, I did not watch Harry Potter or Twilight as my own personal support to Christian films like Narnia. I really hope I'd see Silver Chair soon. 🙂 BTW, A Peaceful New Year to everyone! 🙂
I have no idea why Jill would go to Eustace's house when he was always so beastly before either! It has been bothering me for quite some time now. Maybe Alberta is good friends with Jill's mother or something? Just an idea. So Jill's mother calls in to the Scrubb residence, and drags Jill along with her.
But yeah, it's a bit confusing…
Yeah, the review was so bad, I would have laughed at it. That is, if it wasn't written by a highly respected film critic in a newspaper hundreds of thousands of people read! Taking that fact into acount, I was very indignant and angry.
But yeah, I agree with you, Mayor, I was happy to have a bit of a break from Pete and Su in this movie. It isn't that I don't like them, it's just that I like Ed and Lu more. It was nice to see them have a bit more attention. And obviously, this critic has never met one of Skandar's fangirls (not to mention the million or so around the globe… if I were him, I'd be slightly scared). And Lucy? She's pretty much everyone's favourite! She's my personal favourite Pevensie. Who doesn't like Lucy? And Eustace was absolutely brilliant, and didn't even get a mention! What is this?
So yeah. Very annoyed and angry. I suppose everything's up to us now. But hey, we're the real Narnia fans, right? If you can't trust a Narnia fan's review of a narnia film, who can you trust? It's up to us to spread the good word, people!
Yes, they would have taken it on. Notice I said *profit*. You're talking about the gross, not profit. PC was a serious money-loser for Disney. In other words, negative profit. Why would Fox have taken on VDT if they thought they would lose a bundle of money too? They wouldn't have. They were hoping that a lower budget combined with a gross in the same ballpark as PC would lead to a positive profit, if not in the theatrical run, at least in the DVD sales.
Where i saw it recently in the city i live in here in NZ ( My fifith time & seen with diff people) the theater was most full of any sessions i been to and it was 3d also. It was a tuesday midday martinee session, and it was half to 2/3's full. To sit where we wanted we ended up sitting pretty near the frontrow & front of every1 else cause all higher spaces taken & crowded. I have seen quite a few people posting similar things all round the world around recently, so seems like a definite general trend that's going on:)
Will be interesting in numbers when i get to go see it again -because it was still great 5th time for me in 3d – hopefully this week sometime & also interesting if it's still totally great movie watching!
Yes! I totally agree.
Will the Voyage of the Dawn Treader stay out until around January 15? It's my B-day and I want to see it in 3D. That would be my first 3D movie.
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