‘Dawn Treader’ Week 3 Box Office Report
The Voyage of the Dawn Treader came in fourth over the Christmas weekend box office. Little Fockers opened at $30.8 million followed by True Grit at $24.9 million and Tron Legacy which made $19.2 million in its second weekend.
Dawn Treader grossed another $9.5 million in its third weekend bringing its domestic total to $62.6 million. Dawn Treader also continues to do fairly well overseas where it pulled in over $40 million throughout last week, bringing its international total to $165 million, and its worldwide total to $231 million.
http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=narnia3.htm
Do you want a sequel to Dawn Treader ?
The numbers so far
57.2% Yes.
23.5% No.
19.3% I don't care.
We have to change this !
How many times will you see 'The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader' in theaters?
53.7% No interest in seeing it in theaters.
33.8% Once and I'm done.
6.4% Twice would be nice.
3.3% Four times, maybe more.
2.0% Three times the charm.
0.8% Walked out during the first time.
1,854 users polled.
I misplaced my copy of the book. 🙁
I don't really think that it's doing that poorly at this point. It will probably make somewhere between $360 and $425 million worldwide when all is said and done. If, let's say, it makes $400 m, that's only $19 million less than Prince Caspian's box office take of $419 million worldwide. That's pretty comparable. Since sequels usually do not make more money than their predecessors, I don't really see how Walden and Fox could have reasonably hoped for Dawn Treader to make much more than it will end up making. In the U.S. it looks like it will have around a 4.5x multiplier from its opening weekend. That is absolutely excellent, and shows the film has great staying power (it also proves that the Christmas holidays are the time to release these Narnia films).
I think we should all also keep in mind that Hollywood studios typically only make around 20% of their profits from their movies' box office receipts. TV licensing is actually the biggest net profit maker for the studios. Even DVD/BluRay sales typically take in a significantly bigger net profit than the box office does. (Read Edward Jay Epstein's articles on licensing and DVD profits for more on this.) And this is not even to mention all the tax breaks that they got from the government of Australia (so in reality the budget wouldn't really have cost them the quoted $155 million even).
So long as Dawn Treader gets close to PC's numbers at the box office (which it looks like it will), I don't see why Fox wouldn't continue with the series. After all, they will make a sizable profit in TV licensing and DVD/BR sales regardless, so as long as the series doesn't appear to be dropping off drastically, why not continue with it?
Let's not let anyone who hates this film influence us to be unduly pessimistic. It's still too early to know for sure what they'll do, but I think that it's looking more likely than not that they'll continue with the series. Unless Dawn Treader simply tanks overnight and all of its great holds disappear (which is very unlikely), I don't see how it would not be financially viable for the studios involved to do The Silver Chair.
And I'm not trying to be negative, just logical (I like Vulcans too).
Pevensie: Fox did Star Wars three decades ago, long before it was purchased by Clear Channel and Rupert Murdoch. The recent trilogy was made by Lucas, and only distributed by Fox. They are indeed pernicious, as their so-called "news" station is nothing but deceit and half-truths, Satanic tactics that make them extremely unworthy of C.S. Lewis.
Box Office Mojo is showing Dawn Treader's foreign total at $186 million as of Wed. Prince Caspian made $278 m total at the foreign box office. This is, of course, a difference of $92 million, but naturally VDT still has a lot of wind in its sails, while PC's number will remain static. Dawn Treader is on track for a very good upcoming holiday weekend, so really by Monday it should be *substanially* over $200 million foreign. It looks to me like it will likely pass Caspian's foreign box office by late January. Of course, when Dawn Treader opens in Japan in Feb. it will go higher than this. I would be surprised at this point, if it doesn't make around $300 million at the foreign box office when all is said and done.
Dawn Treader's holds have certainly been a lot better than PC's. This is a good sign that the holidays have really helped the film and that the movie most likely has better word-of-mouth than PC. This may even be an indication that more people are seeing this one twice than they did Caspian. Whatever VDT's theatrical run shows, it proves that all future Narnia films really must be released over the Christmas holidays so that they have time to spread by word-of-mouth and to build up a substantial gross in the end.
Man you see, this is why I utterly HATE math lol. I am not sure how much "The Voyage of the Dawn Treader" would need to actually reach in order for another film. But IN MY EYES, I think with a worldwide total of $259,213,369 it is a rather big wad of cash to me to be satified. I mean, at least Walden Media and FOX aren't like Disney and would be so selfish to drop out of the series because of a short amount of budget or whatever the issue was with "Prince Caspian". I give FOX alot of MAJOR props for picking up with Walden Media after Disney pulled that nasty stunt. But gosh think, it's be 28 days since its very first day in theatres and already made that much… add another 28 days… making a total of $518,426,738. If that isn't good enough for continuing, then honey I don't know what is. lol.
"VDT needs to make a much higher profit than PC in order to keep the franchise going."
No, Fox never would have taken on the series if this were true. The vast majority of sequels do not make as much money as earlier films in the series (LOTR and Harry Potter are just two oddball exceptions to this, not the rule). It would have been stupid to invest so much money on the idea that this movie would buck a clear-cut trend.
The assumption was never that it would necessarily make more than PC. Fox took into account several things when taking on the series: this was a project that was already well underway, requiring less of an investment from them, they stand to make very good profit from TV and Pay-TV licensing and DVD/BR sales, and apparently their company is associated with Harpers Collins, the publishers of the Chronicles of Narnia books, so they, or rather their parent company, will even make extra money on increased book sales inspired by the movie (Fox and Harper Collins are both owned by News Corp.), plus Fox holds the rights to The Screwtape Letters, so it will help that (future) film too if they can keep interest up in C.S. Lewis and his stories.
Beyond this, keeping going with the series will help boost sales of VDT for TV and on DVD/BR. Each time a new Narnia film comes out, sales of the earlier movies in the series will increase and it will be shown on TV with greater frequency (as we just saw happen with LWW and PC).
That's another thing.
I know they were trying to tie in Jill for SC, but I think they could've done it with a little more foresight (at least, if they are going to follow the book…). Eustace used to be one of THEM and bullied Jill before he went to Narnia. Why on earth would she be "playing" at his house? Oh well, according to the script people it's probably just a minor plot issue that they will change anyway.
And hey, movie critics aren't always spot on! Most of them know NOTHING about the books they are basing their review on, and thus write a dreadful review with no insight whatsoever. I read a review in the paper this morning that only gave VDT 2 1/2 stars. Thing is, the critic made no mention of Eustace or Caspian, said that Edmund and Lucy were not as loved and lesser than Peter and Susan (something I'm sure many people here would disagree with) and to top it all off called Edmund 'Edward'. THERE ARE NO VAMPIRES IN NARNIA!!!
So yes, we should let everyone know that a lot of the critics, while they are good at analysing films, know nothing about the books! I'm going to see it again (3rd time) with my brother and whatever friends I can get together on Tuesday. Let's keep Aslan's story alive!!!
I agree that vdt is getting help from the release date. However, if it was getting negative word of mouth like the tourist, it would have fallen off the grid by now. I know it is not doing stellar at the box office, but at leastit does seem to be having some legs.
I love e last line of the film. It made me cry buckets at that ending. I agree that it was an appropriate finale, but they did mention Jill so there is still hope.
what is considered normal for a semi successful movie like this -these days- 6 weeks?
anhun, just curious- your age please?
the chief of fox2000 personally wanted the narnia series and walden scooped it up. she is thrilled disney dropped it so she could get her hands on it. I dont think fox will give up too easily.
I remember reading prior to the release of the LWW movie in 2005 that the book, The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe, had sold around 60 million copies. The most recent estimate that I've seen is that it has sold 87 million copies. That is a very big increase in a relatively short time. Whenever any of these movies come out the book sales shoot up. For that reason alone, I would wholeheartedly support the continuation of this film series.
I have read numerous books and been introduced to many authors through movies that I've enjoyed. Indeed, I first "discovered" C.S. Lewis after seeing the movie Shadowlands with Anthony Hopkins as Lewis in the movie theaters back in Jan. 1994. These Narnia films are just about the biggest advertisements for C.S. Lewis there could possibly be. For that, as a huge Lewis fan, I'm very grateful. (Now, if only some excellent film maker would make movie versions of Lewis's Space Trilogy and his novel Till We Have Faces…)
yeah, but the fox head personally wants narnia for her studio
no sam, you are right, the narnia producers really want to get to magician's nephew, tilda really wwants to do it, fox2000 studio chief personally saved narnia cause she wants the series, cs lewis nephew wants to do more as an evangelistic tool, don't be surprised if it doesnt go all the way to the last book, maybe on direct to video if they have to, they are all personally invested,(unlike golden compass, the series only the author's mother could love, LOL)
Glad to hear that the movie is doing well in Sweden and Norway. I was wondering how it was doing in Scandinavia.
Takk.
tell them the real people love it! critics are snobs
Critics tend to have a natural aversion to awful movies. This is called "objectivity", and is a key component for them to perform their duties. What the exit polls are saying regarding fans "liking" the film is completely irrelevant to the analysis provided by professional film critics, who, like it or not, are far, far less "biased" than anyone investing leisure time and money to see it. These are the same "biased" critics, you will recall, who, five years ago, arrived at a 76% "Fresh" consensus for the first film. Where was this "anti-Christian" bias then?
You have to remember, there is a big, big difference between personal preference and dispassionate analysis. I'll give you an example. I'm rather fond of a film called 'Reign of Fire'. It's nothing special, but I likes me some fire-breathing dragons, and I found it over-the-top, excellent popcorn fare, and a fun two hours. The critics HATED this film. And, really, I can't argue with much of their analysis. OBJECTIVELY, they're right. I would never tell anyone: "You should see 'Reign of Fire'. It's a really good movie." That would be a fib. I might say: "Well, if you're like me, you might overlook its flaws and have a good time." But that's not a critic's job. They don't (or should not) pander to what they *think* an audience might like. They assess the merits of the film *as* a film. On that basis, 'Dawn Treader' is being treated VERY fairly, and, again, OBJECTIVELY, it is, I deeply regret to say, a very, very poor product of the cinema.
I'm not saying it's wrong to love it. But the only bias on display in these reviews is an anti-bad movie bias.
In short, don't shoot the messengers.
it was disney's own fault with their stupid decisions
*laughs*
I love maths, and all this stuff still gives me a headache! I have NO IDEA what everyone's talking about!
how do you guys know all this gobbledegook? : )
you supported tangled by evil disney before narnia!!???? aslan is going to give you a talking to!
I posted two sources a few hours ago(the post is located right under Anhun's post where he asks to provide a source) but it currently says "Your comment is awaiting moderation." When I logout of my account my post disappears all together.
Is it currently showing up now? Or is it hidden? I don't see any reason as to why it would be moderated, all I did was post two sources which mentions the production NOT marketing budget at $155 million and the $100 million spent on marketing.
^^Yeah, my theater had plenty of those posters. Really cool that they were just giving them away for free. 🙂
I am one of those people who is an adult, who just happened to stumbled into the dollar theatre because it was raining and saw LWW , which i had never even heard of as a kid. Well, it blew my mind and I am a total Narnia/ cs lewis fanatic now, so believe me, the movies are very important to our sorry world!!!!!
this is so cool there are people from around the world on here! how did u find out about narniaweb from over there?
i got 4 posters too. the sad thing is, that they were not scarfed up, not a good sign.
nothing wrong with narnia fans- they are talking about Narniafans.com
little miss- watch the 4 dvd LWW extras where they talk about blowing so much money on stupid stuff, all i could think about was all the starving people in the world
Lazuli you took the words right out of my mouth! Ben Barnes back as caspian, caspian at the end, like the book, AA direct HGW for music! Lil and Caspian marry at the beginning. I can only dream!
and bring back the original title font at the begining of the movie, please!!
I'm gonna ignore the nay-sayers and allow myself a moment to dream here.
My Silver Chair dream cast:
Eustace: Will Poulter (duh)
Green Lady: Helena Bonham Carter
Rilian: Orlando Bloom (because he and Ben looks kind of similar, and since Caspian is an old man in SC, he seems about the correctish age)
Puddleglum: Johnny Depp
Jill Pole: Suggestions? Maybe pick somebody unknown and fabulous, like they picked Georgie
Caspian: Dunno about the old Caspian, but Ben Barnes should definitely come back and do young Caspian at the end there.
Of course this isn't going to happen in a million years, even when they decide to make it, but shut up, I'm dreaming here.
Well well well, could there possibly be anymore to add to this discussion??? I see I am a little late at joining in =P Anything I say is probably a repeat of someone, but I think that this movie still have a chance. It may be doing good, but it just many not be good enough for SC.
As for word-of-mouth, it really works, people! SO many of my friends have gone to see it, and ALL of them have liked it so far, and posted a status on Facebook about how much they enjoyed it. Sure, it's not a million dollars, but it may add up, and it makes me happy to know that almost all my friends really enjoyed it. Even though a lot of them have never read the books.
No offense, but if there are any of you out there that would like to reply with something negative about this comment, please do not, I think you have made your point(s) quite clear =P
Well, could there possibly be anything to add to this discussion? I see I am a little bit late =P
All I'm going to say is that from what I have read, is that the movie is doing quite well, but it may not be good enough for a sequel. I suppose we shall see. . .
Just have to say that a lot of my friends have gone to see it, and have all posted on Facebook how much they enjoyed the movie! There's like a 'Narnia bug' going around, and it makes me quite happy! The money they pay is important, of course, but I value even more the fact that they all enjoyed it and are encouraging others to see it as well. 🙂
Hurry up and vote !
Edmund and Lucy not as loved as Peter and Susan????????? Ha ha ha ha ha ha and ha!!!
My goodness. First of all, Lucy is arguably the main Pevensie character in the whole thing. She DISCOVERED Narnia. She found the wardrobe. More beloved than Susan? I doubt it.
And Edmund? Personally, Edmund's my favorite. I like Will as Peter, but Skandar did such a fine job in the character of Edmund that he has long been my favorite since I saw "LWW." By the by, I know plenty of females out there who like Skandar for other reasons, eh? LOL! I think this critic is a bit confused. 😛 Personally, and I'm not looking to start a fight or anything, but I found the absence of Peter and Susan refreshing and welcomed. It gave Ed and Lucy more time to develop.
And Edward…….that's just pathetic. Do your research before you write the article.
How many times did The White Witch say "EdMUND!!" ???? I mean, that just shows he/she was not invested in the movie at all. Not even enough to learn their names.
Not mentioning Eustace is pretty sad too. Will Poulter did a really nice job.
*shrugs shoulders* I thought it was doing really well over seas too. I don't know what to think. People say this, others say that. We'll have to wait and see what Fox thinks, after all it's their money, they know if it's a profit or not 🙂
Though I do think, like you, that this is pretty good news for wanting a fourth Narnia
Has everyone lost faith in Narnia? A lot of people are acting like this movie was it! We all must have faith that they will try their hardest to make more. I will be shocked if all seven aren't made. Let's try and make sure that happens! Let's try to go to the movies another time! Let's bring our friends, bring our friend's friends, and let's bring our enimies, because Jessus wants us to love our enimies!
Well the moderator doesn't want you guys to know this I guess, but you can VOTE FOR A NARNIA SEQUEL on :
http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=narnia3.htm
"Do you want a sequel to Dawn Treader ?
The numbers so far
57.2% Yes.
23.5% No.
19.3% I don’t care."
WE can easily change this !
I posted a link to the member's page ( free, and quick) but the moderator erased all this.
We can make a difference, here, people !
wow.. I missed a lot I can see! Differing opinions by far! We'll just have to wait and see what Fox says about it. After all, they're the ones to determine if another gets made… not us (i.e. descision wise, not 'go see it' wise)
I think we keep comparing it to things like LotR, Twilight and HP (I don't go for the last two, I just know they're popular)… but gaging it vs. those 'big' things isn't what makes a movie 'profitable'. Of course Narnia's not going to do as good as LotR (I wish, but I don't think it will), so we have to look at it standing 'alone' from nothing but other Narnia movies.
And compared to LWW and PC, DT is doing pretty good. It's certainly not a flop. It's stable in the box office. But then again, I'm not an expert like Fox is on what is profitable, and what's not. It's really up to *them* as to whether or not we get SC. I hope they give us that.
So! Let's hope! Wish I could see it again!
you sound like Pippin from LotR! 🙂
notice the comment's aren't working… my long comment ended up being before High Queene's and my Pippin comment directed at Comedian ended up not on his…, this will end up in a really weird place too! 🙂
I don't. But I think it's funny when someone says "First Comment!" and they are like the seventh coment down.
I thought the addvertizing was good. I saw more adds then any other movie (Gulivers Travels, Tron, and Tangled). At least you have to say, the addvertizing was better then PC.
All right! That's the spirit! You tell 'um! By the way, I like your user name, name* 🙂
Whoops! that one comment was a reply to something else!
Well the moderator doesn’t want you guys to know this I guess, but you can VOTE FOR A NARNIA SEQUEL on :
http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=narnia3.htm
"Do you want a sequel to Dawn Treader ?
The numbers so far
57.2% Yes.
23.5% No.
19.3% I don’t care."
WE can easily change this !
I posted a link to the member’s page ( free, and quick) but the moderator erased all this.
We can make a difference, here, people !
how many do we need to get the film SC?
I don't understand al the talking about that money.. I only want the next film!!!!!!
because VDT was amazing!
What I was saying was that every time a person sees the movie, that's more money. And Tribunal, can you say you've made 231 million in 3 weeks? They are make quite a lot of money even considering it was a movie.
@Tribunal: Your post isn't showing up, sorry. Maybe the mods think we can't handle the truth, lol.
Nobody knows how much money they need. That's why this subject is generating so much gossip and speculation (and verbal duels to the death). Most, but not all, people agree that if VDT grosses as much as Caspian, we get Silver Chair. The problem is, we don't know if it will.
So far, VDT's total is no where near Caspian at this point, however, it's daily income is now significantly higher (more than twice as much). VDT has made more in it's 3rd week than Caspian did in it's 3rd week. It is set to make more than it did in it's own 2nd week as well, which is unusual, even for a holiday film. The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe did the same thing, but I think we can all agree that there was nothing "usual" about LWW.
I have a degree in math, and even I get confused by this conversation at points. 😛
Of course, the fact that comments seem to pop up in no particular order doesn't help (I'm talking about the glitch on the website, not people responding to other posts).
Some interesting ideas. Here's my line-up.
Eustace: double duh
Green Lady: Natalie Dormer. For the sake of psychological realism, it's important that the Green Lady come across as sweet and benevolent at first, because Eustace and Jill trust her. Natalie Dormer is equally adept at playing sweet/innocent and evil/cruel. If HBC shows up, the first thing everyone's going to think is "Bellatrix LeStrange."
Rilian: Orlando Bloom! That's genius! Now, I highly doubt Walden can afford him, but since we're just dreaming here, why not?
Puddleglum: Rowan Atkinson. Puddleglum is a very complex character. Sometimes ridiculous, sometimes noble and courageous, I think an actor who can play both Blackadder and Mr. Bean would be perfect for the role. I'm worried that Johhny Depp would just come across as creepy.
Jill Pole: Unknown. Jill should definitely be a fresh face.
Caspian: Christoper Lee, with some make-up to make him look older. He's very regal and authoritative. Of course, Ben Barnes should play the younger Caspian.
I also think it might be interesting if they get Tim Burton to direct. SC is very dark, and he knows how to handle dark themes. Or, maybe, if they just get him to direct the Underland sequences.
Lol! I find it quite entertaining too!
Oh darn, that's embarassing. My comments didn't show up so I commented twice. Sorry about that!
You're okay. We're all trying to figure out these glitches. 🙁