‘Dawn Treader’ Week 3 Box Office Report
The Voyage of the Dawn Treader came in fourth over the Christmas weekend box office. Little Fockers opened at $30.8 million followed by True Grit at $24.9 million and Tron Legacy which made $19.2 million in its second weekend.
Dawn Treader grossed another $9.5 million in its third weekend bringing its domestic total to $62.6 million. Dawn Treader also continues to do fairly well overseas where it pulled in over $40 million throughout last week, bringing its international total to $165 million, and its worldwide total to $231 million.
Is that good or bad? It sounds good, and I'm glad it's making a lot of money overseas, but I'm not sure how it's doing overall.
And most importantly, how does this look for the future of the series?
i believe that's a better overseas total than PC…
Less than Prince Caspian, but not by much. It's not as bad as I feared at least. I don't have time, but I really advise others to go rewatch the movie. This cannot, WILL NOT be the end of the Narnia films. Not if I can help it.
At least it's steady. If you go look at it day by day, the count is fairly consistent. There isn't a dramatic upswing or downswing. Guess we'll see what happens when school kicks back off.
how long will it stay in theatres?
Its no longer showing in singapore
fourth is good. i hope it does super-well so they continue making the series.
Prince Caspian made a total of $278,029,923 overseas.
You bet, watching it again isn't a huge drain on one's budget, and it tells Hollywood that it CAN be profitable to produce a Christian-oriented movie.
DEFINITELY a good way to spend your money
I think they'll wait to see if it has legs before making that call.
Not by much? 165 million is a lot less than 278 million. 231 is a lot less than 420. What numbers are you comparing?
OK, to give you a rough idea of what 'good' is for VDT, take the budget of the movie, add $120 million.
If the earnings get close to this, it is very possible for a sequel to be greenlit.
(as it is now, I think we'll get there)
PC got $120 million gain overall, and was considered passable.
That's the best guesstimate I can give.
I thought it would actually do better.
PC wasn't passable. It was a flop. However, VDT, with it's dramatically smaller budget, *would* be considered passable if it got PC's intake, or close.
Let's not forget it hasn't even opened in Japan, which was PC's biggest overseas market.
Oh yeah, and if a sequel is made, the future of the series is still alive, but it greatly varies depending upon each movie's grossings.
Sweet.
Anhun, is your name Japanese? just curious… it's a really cool name
I'm going again this weekend! 🙂
Well, it looks hopeful. Not great, but hopeful. I'm going to see it again ASAP.
Well you believe wrong. It would have to earn over $115 million to pass Prince Caspian's overseas total.
Aw, thanks.:) No, it's Welsh.
"This cannot, WILL NOT be the end of the Narnia films. Not if I can help it."
Amen!!
ok…ok…
I meant that so far, I thouhgt it had succeeded better overseas in three weeks than PC did in those same three weeks…
*sheesh*
Honestly, it's bad. It would have to gross an extra $200 million to turn a profit for Fox and Walden considering they spent $250 million to make and market the film. And since movie theaters get 30% of the film's gross..yeah…
me too…
if everybody on narniaweb who enjoyed it or wants to see it do well goes and see it this weekend before school lets back in, let's get it higher than fourth…
and i don't think it's opened in Japan yet, which is a big market…
I wouldn't expect much from Japan. LWW grossed $57 million and Prince Caspian grossed less than half that at $27 million. One could only expect less from VDT.
A few hundred dollars from repeat viewers won't make much of a difference really.
And China neither. On 7th Jan it comes.
At this point, I'm not very hopeful that VDT will rise to PC's numbers, which means that it's very unlikely that Fox will continue to finance the series at the same budget. I wonder if they'll continue if Walden agrees to a lower budget? . . . We'll have to see.
Dear Narnians,
Consider the data from the link:
http://www.narniaweb.com/info/box-office/
Now do the math…
PC box office from May 16 to June 1 (17 days):
Domestic Total: $115 million
Worldwide Total: $166.9 million
VDT from Dec 10 to Dec 26 (17 days):
Domestic Total: $62,597,030
Worldwide Total: $165,021,702
Conclusion:
Worldwide VDT is pretty much the same as PC. Domestic is lagging WAY behind.
The bright side: so far it is "holding" box office better than PC on a week-by-week basis.
A word of advice: box office is like election. If you want to elect your candidate (i.e VDT succeed), you need to vote (go watch the movie). To think that your little vote doesn't count is foolish. EVERY VOTE COUNTS! Go cast your vote!!!
saludos!
That is not necessary true. PC and VDT have two very different production costs. So VDT may make less but may end up earning a bigger profit than PC did.
Well that's semi-good news. Between the progress so far, and the fact that VDT seems to have pretty good legs, VDT's foreign total should eventually catch up to PC's. Just the same, things are looking bleak on the domestic front, and that's the most important factor. 🙁
That's not the standard that they're looking for. Fox agreed to finance VDT at a lower budget, hoping that it would make PC's numbers and, therefore, make a profit. PC was a failure. VDT needs to make a much higher profit than PC in order to keep the franchise going.
I think you are misquoting. Which is a good thing, because actually its better. You are mixing up worldwide totals, and foreign totals. These aren't the same thing. Worldwide includes the domestic. Foreign does not. So with that:
PC Worldwide (17 days) – 166.9 million
VDT Worldwide (17 days) – 224.6 million (roughly)
For the link you shared did not give the foreign, but the domestic and then the worldwide. I think that is the correct interpretation anyway, and hope that is right. But we also need to remember that the US was one of the first countries to release PC, where as VDT it was about in the middle, if not closer to the end.
Just curious…is the children on school holidays yet…i mean in the domestic countries such as America and England…if so it must be the dreadful weather that stops flights to any other country…and if it does this..it could also stop people from going to cinemas..maybe…and also so many family films are released which makes it harder for VDT to get enough profit…perhaps next time we should consider the production team to release the next film (if made) during a time with not much family films..but it has strong legs so thats great…i just think its too early to know the exact profit of VDT…i know its been 3 weeks…but it takes time like anything else 🙂
You forgot to mention Prince Caspian was not out in many countries in those first few weeks. VDT has opened in most contries already, hence the higher gross.
**the total for VDT after 17 days was roughly 227.6 sorry.**
also remember that PC had a production budget of 225 mil, while VDT only had 150 mil.
Hi Archelander,
I wished what you said is true, however I think that worldwide is considering only outside the U.S. Look at PC numbers from June 23-29:
Domestic Total: $137.6 million
Worldwide Total: $275.4 million
It adds up to approx. $413 million which is roughly what PC made as total.
Also, in (I hope the link works):
http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=narnia3.htm
It explicitly says the Foreign total for VDT:
Foreign Total as of Dec. 26, 2010:
$165,021,702
However, I still believe:
(1) VDT will do better than PC internationally.
(2) Domestically, VDT it can still make very close to PC.
Consider this:
PC domestic "final" is $137.6 million. VDT is at approx. $69 million. That is approx. $68 million to go. If VDT were to keep its current $3.something million/day rate, it could reach this mark in little more than 22 days. HOWEVER, it is likely that this rate will slow down soon enough (maybe by next week but that is me speculating here). All the more reason that, the more the fans keep going to the theater the better.
Archenlander where did you get the $227.6 million figure from?
i hope this is good…
That is not necessarily true. I am not sure in how many countries PC was released at that point, but I do know that VDT still has at least one good card to play, i.e Japan (I am not sure about China).
here check this site out:
http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/2008/NARN2.php
scroll down to the worldwide weekly chart total. if you see the dates dont match up to those that Xande's link stated, so the numbers dont match up exactly. but if you follow along you can see that by the end the worldwide totals end up being the 419 mil figure, which was the total gross of PC. so with this you can add up the numbers that Xande gave us and see that they dont match up to the weekly worldwide as my link states.
stateofgreen the 227.6 mil figure i got from boxofficemojo as sunday, but the total on there now is as of today, which doesnt have the foreign box office in, just the domestic to that date. so the total today, with foreign as of sunday is 234.8 mil
It may look like VDT is way behind PC in America, but it's actually not as far behind as it appears. VDT is going to make nearly 25 million over the next 6-7 days due to the holidays, and by the end of its run I guarantee you it will end no more than 25 million from PC's U.S. total.
lol, when PC didn't do well in May, everyone said "Why didn't they release it during the holidays!" Some people even insisted that this was the main ingredient in PC's failure (as if).
No, I think the time of year is actually helping VDT, just not enough. I know I've had a very hard time convincing any of my friends to come with me, because they all say, "The second movie was awful, and this one isn't getting good reviews." Basically, PC irreparably damaged the brand.
I have seen it twice, the day it released and I saw it again today.
Archenlander,
I think $137.6 million for domestic gross (from the link I gave) is pretty close to $141,621,490 million (from the link you gave), as $275.4 million (my link) is to $277,868,796 (your link) for international gross. However, for the sake of VDT, I do wish your assessment is correct.
lol Anhun…i know what you mean…it did helped VDT to be released at this time i gotto admit…i hope it gets better though….its just a shame to have all these other exciting films released around the same time as VDT…and oh no that must be depressing for you to have people you know refusing to see this VDT due to PC..oh what a shame..they are missing alot…tell them to look at the trailer and ask if it looks exciting coz its not good to rely on reviews..and btw i saw the film and it was fantastic..the colours, effects, the acting is all great and the story coool…and its very hillarious i mean very…will poulter is truely a great actor so yh…i hope you enjoy the film as much as i did..and i hope they get convinced to watch it with you..i wish you the best 🙂
Good news is that the family friendly competition for the next three weeks is meager. Tron is the only film meeting expectations (and actually is a little below). Yogi is awful, gulliver is terrible, but vdt is sustaining. Could mean nice figures through january.
Hey Xande,
I see where you are coming from, and this is really hard for me to explain, but PC made roughly 419 mil when it was done. so if you scroll all they way down the link i gave you can see that total in the Worldwide weekly chart. so if you go to roughly the same dates (since they dont have the same dates the totals are different) you can see that they match up with the totals u gave for your worldwide totals (which are worldwide totals not foreign like i think you are interpreting them to be. so you are giving the right worldwide, but you dont add the domestic because they are already in your links totals. where as the VDT totals are separated foreign and domestic. That is really confusing, but I hope you see where i am coming from.
I am not tryin to be rude at all, i just want you to see the VDT has a higher gross with same time as PC, so you can be excited with me 🙂
Hey Archenlander,
No worries. We all want the same thing and I hope you are right. However, I do think that the more each and every one of us go watch VDT and bring a friend(s) the better are its chance to match up to PC.
Cheers!
Double Amen!!
I don't see how that's possible. 🙁
keep on adding a few dollars to a few dollars and eventually you got alot. Don't be so negative, every little bit counts!
yay!!!! silver chair!!!!
please do the silver chair!!!!!!
holidays? you are referring to here in the US I assume, and as far as I know the only holiday left is New Years and the schools in my area are opening back up tomorrow or monday. So I don't see how it can make 25 mil in 6-7 days?
I've been reading through this thread (at least all the ones posted by this time) and it just seems sad, this back and forth "the numbers are great" "well you're looking at the wrong numbers" "but the production costs" "but they don't care about the production costs…" a lot of this is speculating, we don't know what fox's criteria for greenlighting is, what we do know is VOTD's budget is lower than PC's, the box office is way lower, and a lot of other competing movies are doing relatively poorly, the economy is in a depression, and the over seas box offices are doing well. So to sum it all up, there's a good chance that fox will not greenlight the production, but to quote a phrase "'ope? there's a lot more 'en 'ope; Aslan is on the move…" and like aslan Walden media seems like they have more interest in completing this series than most movie studios would. There is also the slim chance that companies can shift, budgets can go down (SC and HHB not being as magically intensive, except for maybe the large group of CG owls) and Tilda Swinton really wants to do magicians nephew (and If anyone asks no she didn't say that exactly)
sorry again for the long late night rant
Well that does change things. So there's still a good chance that VDT's foreign won't catch up to PC's. At the end of the day, VDT will still have a respectable overseas haul, but that in and of itself won't save it. It didn't save Golden Compass.
The Budget for this film was $155 million, not $250 million. Worldwide these numbers are good considering the fact that this film has a much lower production budget than the last film, the economy is very bad, and that there is an aggressive fan base energetic enough to keep the momentum going to make another film. If you compared these numbers to Tron Legacy, Disney is losing its shirt. Sure, Tron Legacy is doing well in America, but bad in Europe. At the current moment, Tron hasn't even made its production budget (of $170 million), and that's if you use the worldwide numbers. Dawn Treader is one week older and (as things stand now), has made almost 80 million over its production budget. And it's not over yet.
It is hard to interpret these numbers in terms of whether or not silver chair will get green lit. My guess is fox is probably waiting to see how well it holds up in the coming weeks. The debut was well below expectations at least domestically, but it does appear to be showing some legs which gives me hope. It seems that the domestic total is what is more pivotal for some reason (golden compass did amazing overseas but still got the plug pulled on the rest) so I am hoping that vet will cross the 100 mil mark which I think is possible eventually. I am just not sure if that number is enough. It still amazes me that even though PC made 419mil worldwide with a 225mil budget it was considered a failure to the point that Disney dropped the franchise al together.
Umm… if you took the time to read my post you'd know I said $250 million was spent to make AND market the film. You can spin the numbers all you want but VDT is doing poorly. Fox and Walden get only a portion of the $231 million it's grossed. Why would they continue producing a franchise that is LOSING them money.
And Tron hasn't opened in half of the countries as Narnia so your argument is useless.