Voyage of the Characters: Caspian and Edmund
AslansCountry.com and Fox have teamed up to bring you the website Voyage of the Characters — a look at the main characters from The Voyage of the Dawn Treader. Each month, they’ll be releasing a profile. Last month, they released Caspian, and today, it was Edmund’s turn. You can check them out on their website here.
AWESOME! I love what they're saying here!!! I hope it's all true. 😉
Those are pretty neat. Although it's hard to tell where the book info ends and the movie info begins.
I find it interesting that Edmund gets the greatest revelation of Aslan. I wonder what that means?
"Greatest revelation" = Aslan's transformation from lamb to lion. This is what Edmund, Eustace, and Lucy see at the end. "Greatest revelation" also implies a gradual revelation for all the characters throughout the book (and movie). Edmund isn't being singled out here.
Edmund's character is the epitome of redemption! I only hope that they're not going to make him turn out like Peter in Prince Caspian…struggling with "humility and loyalty"…we've already seen that in LWW! Edmund is changed and has learned from his mistakes! May we not reminisce on past struggles??? Just a thought.
Yes, Edmund has changed. But change isn't perfection. Edmund needs to learn more about humility and loyalty, just like King Caspian and Reepicheep (and a few others). He does make a few mistakes. This is all evident in the book. And I'm sure it will be evident in the film. Read it again…
Oh thanks! 🙂 I as taking it the wrong way.
He seriously tries to join the army just to avoid spending the summer with Eustace? THAT'S why? I mean, I heard that before, but I thought it was a joke. Either Eustace is worse than I thought or Edmund's getting melodramtic. LOL. Still, the idea of enlisting to get away from one's annoying cousin…well, sounds reasonable-and funny-all the same.
Oh /no/! NO! Sorry, this is very exciting, but Edmund! Oh dear! Did you see that line -"He and Caspian argue about who is really king" -that is /not/ what that argument was about /at all/! Edmund was acknowledging Peter's overlordship and Caspian being subject to /Peter/, not to Edmund! Oooh, boy. Not to sound too pessimistic, but that is, (odd, I know) one of my favourite scenes, because of the brotherly love it shows Edmund has for Peter. And now it sounds as though they are messing it up. And this makes me very sad. Thoughts?
yea dont they have another page for characters at narnia.com (http://www.narnia.com/us/#/characters/kingcaspian) they only have caspian, edmund, lucy, eustace, reepicheep, and drinian so far
yes, like when Edmund and Caspian fight over the gold spring…
🙁 well see…
Yes, but those "mistakes" are a part of some voodoo magic Caspian and Edmund run into at Goldwater. I think what LL was saying is that she doesn't want the good things that have come of Edmund's character to be overlapped again by MORE hardships. The focus of these flaws should be placed on the newest character, Eustace. That's what Eustace is there for in all honesty. We don't want two brats in one film, do we?
Did you like how they made Peter a jerk in the 2nd film? I think after seeing his drastic transformation in Prince Caspian, some of us are hoping that Edmund isn't going to turn out a fool like Peter did, unlike in the books. By all means, Edmund isn't perfect but the mistakes at Goldwater, ect. are enchantments, not character changes. If they continue to do this to every character, it's going to make it seem like the Pevensie children are dropping like flies one-by-one. With the exception of Susan's character, Peter, Lucy, AND Edmund were made to PRO-gress in humility and loyalty, not RE-gress, in context with these books.
Just a thought.
I dont think LL is saying that Edmund is or has reached perfection (obviously bd this is impossible), as for his struggle with humility and loyalty.. i dont know where this is coming from. the only reason he and caspian have a rift is bc they are influenced by the dark magic they experience at death water. the only one who needs some humility and change in the new movie is eustace. clearly.
What LB & Mel W are saying is what I meant. I didn't want to cause you to blow your top 220chrisTian/AslansLily. That was never my intention. Yes, it's true, I do need to re-read the books just in case but I don't recall, other than the Deathwater scene, Edmund ever doing anything to corrupt his humility and loyalty. I'm sorry if I offended you or anyone else on this board. I just didn't want Edmund to turn out like how Peter did in Prince Caspian. He's already done too much to live up to his title as "The Just." And to flippantly act like a prideful fool (again, excluding the Deathwater scene), just seems unnecessary. I hope you understand 🙂
I agree 🙂
Pardon my mistake, I meant *What LB & LL are saying is correct* not *Mel W*! Haha!
Haha. Did anyone take the How much do you know Caspian test? One of the answers for "Who is Caspian's son" is Suspian. Anyone else see the irony here?
ooo edmund!
I really think that they have focused enough on Edmund growing in the first and I hate how they are always making them worse then they really are. I wish they would just keep them the same as they are in the book. I just hope that they don't make him look bad, that is my main concern. I would have preferred that they kept the fight between the two of the as it was in the book. keep the story of Aslan alive.
LOL!!! I should hope not! 😉
Well, if the movie's going to follow the plot in Caspian's profile, I'd say it's fairly bookverse.
Anyway, I bet production released Caspian's profile in August because Ben's birthday is in August, and Edmund's profile in September because Skandar's birthday is in September.
Another thing they seem to be insinuating is that the fight on gold/death water is over because Edmund submits to Caspians authority – this isn't the case at all! The fight ends because they see Aslan and this breaks the spell and they realise they've been behaving like idiots!
YES! I totally agree! Keep the story of Caspian and Edmund alive!
Caspian sure doesn't look 13 in the movie as the profile says!
Totally 100% agree!!!!! Yes, that is exactly what I think!
I agree. That scene wasn't one of my favorites just because it made Ed and Caspian look like little boys, but still I agree. I don't know maybe they just worded it wrong. (I really hope!)
I like the Caspian description. Sounds like the Narrowhaven experience will be very interesting.
Edmund's profile was annoying. I think the movie will be amazing no matter what but I dearly hope that this "arguing over who is king" bit is limited to Deathwater and doesn't permeate the whole movie. I do not agree at all that Edmund needs to learn humility or loyalty. And what's with the comment about Edmund needing to submit to Caspian's authority? Where does that come from? Edmund states twice in the book that he is not "under" Caspian's authority. Both times this happens, Caspian is being a jerk and Edmund is simply stating the truth. And the second time he is totally in the right. That isn't Edmund arguing about whose king. Its Edmund telling Caspian to go back and be king. It's one king giving a fellow king some advice he doesn't want to hear. Good friends do that sometimes. The entire crew and Aslan himself tell Caspian the same thing.
Caspian is king under Aslan and High King Peter as Edmund is. They are equals. They are also friends–Caspian even calls him "brother". Doesn't look like they are gonna go with that angle in the movie though. Because no movie is complete without an alpha male struggle. (eye roll)
I also agree with the previous poster that the scene at Deathwater makes it clear exactly whose authority needs to be submitted to.
I'm sure I will enjoy the movie just as much , but I did kinda heave a sigh. Edmund is my favorite character and I think this angle is a little insulting to his character. He has years more experience as a king than Caspian. He is a grave and wise man and a seasoned warrior. (who, by the way, did not always fight under Peter–he led Narnia into battle quite well by himself, also) He has been sent by Aslan himself to help Caspian on his voyage. You would think he would get a little respect.
It looks to me like all the characters have been given huge "flaws" they have to overcome wheras in the book they each have just moments of weakness because everybody is human and makes mistakes.
Like I said, I just hope it doesn't permeate the whole movie. The reast of the movie is sounding just awesome. I can't wait to see what they do with Narrowhaven.
Everyone: keep this in mind on Edmund…
1. People can always become more humble.
2. I'm not convinced the deathwater episode was because of a magic spell or something. Edmund and Caspian do argue over who is king and by that I don't mean Edmund and Caspian. I mean Peter and Caspian. Yes, they're equals. That doesn't mean that one can't submit to the other.
3. Jesus, King of Kings, submitted to the Father on the cross. He performed the greatest act of humility. If God can bow, why can't we?!
You summed up my feelings exactly! I agree with your comment 110%! They have no reason to make Edmund and Caspian fight outside of the incident at Goldwater. Edmund HAS learned from his mistakes from LWW so they need to move on. I happen to think Caspian and Edmund are BFFs! Lol 🙂
I'm not sure I fully understand your notion.