AslansCountry Posts Detailed Scene Descriptions
The same footage screened in New York earlier this week was screened in Los Angeles today, and Cyclops from AslansCountry.com was in attendance!
I don’t think there are any major spoilers that were not in the two previous reports, but this report is much more detailed (including exact quotes) and fan-oriented.
One interesting bit clears up the controversy over Eustace referring to the Pevensies as ‘orphans’ in one of the clips. AC writes: “Michael Apted explained this, saying it was meant to convey they were separated from their parents at the time because of the war.”
And, here’s a bit from the scene just before the Pevensies and Eustace climb on board:
Ed, Lu, and Eustace are seen swimming in front of the Dawn Treader.
They try to swim away, but are almost ‘ran over’ by the ship. Three or four sailors (including Caspian) jump in to save them.
Caspian: “Susan! It’s ok, I’ve got you!” Lucy: “It’s me, Lucy!”
Congratulations Cyclops! It’s great to see Fox wanting to connect with the fan base.
WHAT?
Caspian is not suppose to remember Susan.
IT NEVER HAPPENED.
Huh?
If this is all the mention then that is not so bad.
I think Maki was hoping the filmmakers would pretend Suspian never happened.
I know I've tried to do just that. 😉
But, wait, if Lucy was a bit jealous of Susan's beauty, wouldn't she like that she was mistaken for Susan? …or maybe she would be upset that Caspian thought it was Susan, but then that would suggest the whole crush thing….I just hope they don't draw it out too much, and that this is the only mention of Suspian whatsoever.
If I had movie editing software I would just cut out that one minute Suspian clip at the end of Prince Caspian – I mean, seriously im not a movie purist but that scene was just ridiculous!
Oh common on, Lucy has grown and being all wet, Caspian had probably thought it was Susan with Edmund and some new guy. It's not like one of the sister is a blond, both are brunettes. The trailer did such a fantastic job of turning Lucy into Susan during the incantation scene, so when Caspian first saw Lucy in the water he thought it was Susan. In PC, it was Sue's horn that he blew, raid the castle with, and rescued her after she stayed behind in the forest so Lucy can go find Aslan. It's not the book. It's an adaptation for the film. BTW, there was no Fox in the LWW, but he turned out to be a pivotal character addition.
Actually, the fox is in the LWW book. Remember the Christmas party that the White Witch came across in the book? They moved that to badger's house (he's the one that *isn't* in the book) in the movie, and they didn't show *why* all those talking animals were turned to stone. The fox was the primary character defying the witch in that scene in the book.
Oh dear!!!!! That would be a very awkward situation to be in! (The Caspian/Lucy thing) I have three older sisters, and I've been in similar situations…and they are extremely embarassing!!!
The one thing I'm afraid of is a sort of "Caspian looking down at Lucy attitude"…like, "Oh…I wanted to see your sister…and I'm stuck with you???" I always saw a very close friendship between Caspian and Lucy as described in the book, kind of like Caspian took the place of Peter for Lucy…but a situation like that might suggest otherwise. Oh, well, guess there's nothing to do but wait till it comes out. Thanks, Cyclops, for this information! 🙂
Susan?! Nooooooooooo!
Look. Whoever wanted the Suspian thing, it wasn't the fandom, and it's us to whom you're making these films. So, now you got the change to film the CANONICAL love story supported by the fans. Please, please, PLEASE tell me the whole Suspian thing isn't dragged into this. Because we want our CaspianxRD. Thank you.
Caspian has obviously forgotten what happened at the end of the last movie when Susan quite clearly stated said she would never be back to Narnia. Caspian should not be seen to be doubting what Aslan had told her.
Ok. That was my first reaction, and it was bit extreme.
In the context, it's much better. It's the first thing Caspian says after meeting them, i.e. very early in the film. So it's more like establish continuun between the two films, and also drawing parallels between Lucy and Susan. And one could say nice foreshadowing of the beauty spell.
Good to finally hear what's going on with the overall plot. It's pretty ok imho. In the book to they didn't really sail out just to find Aslan's land, that was just the spiritual context and how it happened to happen. So I hope they manage to keep the idea that though they're trying to do something important at the moment, the voyage in the end is really a spiritual journey and culminates in reaching Aslan's land.
So… as the final thought…. they really changed the plot. A lot. But the original story will remain intact in the book, and this movie version seems to have an interesting alternative story with many same locations, characters and ideas. It sounds pretty cool, actually. 🙂 I'm really looking forward to the big battle and the final farewells.
maybe he forgot who lucy was(she's grown, got older) hasn't been 3years from what it said in the book? maybe he thought lucy was susan cause she look like her
Assuming Caspian had had a crush on Susan, and for all those 3 years he was dreaming about her, and how their fate could have been…and then, when he was sailing, he saw a dark-haired, messy feminine wet figure in distress who looked something like her in the water, and all his suppressed emotions for the past 3 years came bursting out.
I don't like the idea at all…but unfortunately, there's nothing that can be done about it. Let's just hope they don't mess up the movie too big
But they can't take that and add it into the whole film. Sure maybe a little blip at the beginning. Let's hope that's all that it is.
i'm with you U.U
For some reason I'm more worried about Lucy having a crush on Caspian than a reference to Suspian. I'm hoping this mistaking Lucy for Susan is just foreshadowing Lucy's scene with the beauty spell. It's been mentioned often that she really wants to look like Susan. Just PLEASE don't have her pining for Caspian! It would just complicate things and lead nowhere. And Lucy's not the kind of girl to have crushes on everyone! Just because she's friends with Caspian, and he's chivalrous to her, it doesn't mean they're in love!! What happened to simple, pure friendships?? Why can't Hollywood give it a rest???!!
Okay, I got it out of my system now. 😉 Sorry to end up ranting on your post, Fire Fairy.
Oh darn-it. I knew the whole Caspian and Susan thing whould cause trouble in this one. Why did they have to put it in there at all?
what?! you are kidding me?
ummm…..is that meant to be funny?
oh crap…..they did not need to do that.
I kinda like the whole "Susan, I've got you," thing. It's kind of funny. 🙂
I agree. I do think there was a strong relationship…I think that he should have noticed that it was Lucy and not automaticly said "I've got you Susan!" But I do kinda like that he says that…its indacating that he misses Susan…thats all
I totally agree. The only love realationships in all seven books are Aravis + Cor and Caspian + Liliandil.
Um….ew? funny, but ew? I'm sorry, but it sounds like a really bad fan-fic.
*Squeeee* Pirate-y violin music!!! 😀 (yeah, all the stuff this thing details, and I'm excited about prate music. :P)
The the WW in the form of sea serpent? This doesn't sound good for Silver Chair. :s
of corse i also think suspian should never have hapend, but I think he still is supposed to remember that there was a Susan.
I think the "Susan, I've got you," thing might be funny in that sceen, it depends on HOW he says it. he really doesnt have to say it in a totaly romantic kind of lover voice..
but I am always a little nervis about every thing concerning Caspian and Susan, since what they did in PC…
Let's just hope the best.
I actually kind of like it, too….it's funny, a little nod to the *cough*stupidity*cough* of what happened in PC. 🙂
wow, I *really* hope Lucy isn't after Caspian. Nothing to say that it is happening, but just that he's mistaking Lucy for Susan. And, well… they do look similar. Years have gone by for Lucy, so she might look similar to Caspian who hasn't seen them in years and might not remember voices/faces very well. So I guess it's just him getting them mixed up, not necisarily a crush thing. Besides Apted knows he has some fans out there who are worried. I don't think he's going to butcher it that way.
I think I figured out the magician's island thing. Awel Prince and I were puzzling over it, kidnapped by giants on one island and then meeting the magician somwhere else. Didn't add up and we were puzzling about the change. Well, what IF it's just the giants who kidnap Lucy, take her to Coriakin's house, and while Caspian and Ed are looking for Lucy they run into the dufflepuds? They just threw in two giants, not taking the magician/dufflepuds out of the whole invisible book thing. We know the dufflepuds are on the magician's island because of the clip we saw off the trailer. The dufflepuds were on the magician's island. So it looks like the giants are just an added element. So happy!
Oh my goodness, Ed giving Reep permission to throw Eustace overboard?! Too funny!! 😀 'Go call daddy!' Wow, Eustace brings out the worst in everyone.
Looks like there are *some* changes but mostly in the spirit of the book. Let's just hope that Lucy has no crush. But I seriously doubt it. If Apted is talking about 'Narnia Police' and having to watch out for fan's intrests, then he'll know Suspian was unacceptable and he won't repeat. Honestly it'd be overkill. I think maybe it's just trying to heighten Lucy's 'want to be pretty'. But I hope it's not overboard on that either, and I don't think it will be, because I'd hate to have Lucy going on about it ALL the time. But it doesn't look like she's pining over it majorly or that it ruins her character. So long as it's not a whole Peter being a jerk thing in PC. I'm happy.
it almost needed a plot tweak. Because they're sorta just 'looking' for some missing lords just because Caspian made a vow. There's nothing in peril. No reason to really keep the promise. It makes the story a little bit stronger if there's a peril that has to be overcome. And so, it could be 'okay' depending on how they work it out. And probably not too much to worry about White Witch being the sea serpant. That'd be kind of corny. What gave the indication for that?!
oh, and I mean, what gave the indication to the viewers that the sea-serpant is the white witch? None really… if everyone's been thinking 'WW' then they might just 'assume' it.
Haha! In the full report it says something like: (Reep is talking about Eustace after he faints) "Should we throw him back into the water?" Edmund nods in agreement. (Lucy) Edmund!!!!
Guys why did you have to tear this arpart? I was totally ok with the "Susan I've got you" thing until you ruined it. I think it will be funny and not romantic. Besides during this movie Caspian falls in love with Lilliandil. Whatever
I do agree that he should remember Susan, just for continuity's sake, however much I wish Suspian had never happened. As a friend of mine put it, Suspian was like, "A dead roach in the middle of the screen." 😛 I just hope they don't have him dreaming about her, asking Lucy all about her…ugh. Scary thoughts. :s
I don't thinks it's a big deal at all. So what if Caspian thinks Lucy is Susan for half a second.
Actually, it would be kind of weird if Caspian didn't say something about Susan in the film. Since it was only a couple years since the they left and he is probably still sad about it. Which brings up anther problem. Since Susan is going to be in Narnia for a little bit will Caspian see her and what is that scene going to be like?
*pirate
Ugh. More of that susan stuff? I was really hoping they'd leave that alone, but I guess it makes sense. Still, Ugh.
I agree. It would be like she never existed, which would be weird. :/ Plus, I find it kind of funny. 😛 I personally don't think Susan's going to be in Narnia (if she is, somebody getting fired…:P), but IF she is (which she better not be), I hope they show absolutely NO feelings for each other whatsoever. He's got RD, she's got her Naval Officers…hopefully they've moved on? *wishful thinking*
Agreed! Not funny! Tragically over-dramatic.
*pounds head on desk* Oh, lovely, Caspian. Way to make a total idiot and royal nincompoop of yourself. I do hope this isn't hinting at any Caspian/Lucy nonsense later on.
I'm sorry, but the line resembles a scene I've read in a bad fanfiction. Where Caspian was being an idiot. Oh well. Maybe they'll cut the line.
But probably they won't. 😛
Wow, I was crying when I read the ending. I'm going to sobbing like a baby in the movie theater.
I wouldn't say I LIKE it, but it is kind of funny when you think about it.
WHY did I have to read the spoilers?!
I get you. But I like it in a way, I mean, they had to keep continuity SOMEHOW (Caspian's accent….grrrr). I wish Suspian hadn't happened, don't get me wrong, but just for continuity's sake, you know. Yeah, it is pretty funny. 😛
Agree. ^
Haha "Susan I've got you! "Its me Lucy"
I wouldn't go blaming him to fast. I think the made Georgie look a little more like Anna in this film or at least the trailers. and Both Caspian and Lucy are in the water. hard to tell who's who.
Do not read this post unless you have read the report.
'Narnia police everywhere'? Oh, I LOVE it when the production makes reference to us fans!
Alberta Scrubb, okay, now I officially love this movies humor. And the line about turnips is a nice touch- makes the whole thing seem more realistic.
The thing about Caspian mistaking Lucy for Susan sounds more funny than romantic. Like, "SUSAN, YOU'RE BACK!" Awkward, but in an amusing way.
Love the part with Eustace and Reepicheep at the end in both reports. It seems like they have the relationship between the two packed down tight.
Hmm. Most of it sounds good. I love the way the dialogwas written. The whole White Witch thing is *makes a groaning noise* And I'm not so sure about Eustace fighting the sea serpent. But all in all, it looks good. I really like how they've kept the flavor of the book's dialog in the script. Like when Caspian says, "The real trick is getting him to shut up!" 🙂
It could be hilarious or it could be horible. If Caspian is STILL swooning over Susan, I will be offically mad. The Susan/Caspian thing ruin those two characters for me. Caspian is no long Prince Caspian in my mind, he is now Prince Kisspian.
I will say this, though the whole White Witch/Dark Island part is very annoying and lame… the first scene as well as the last scene at Aslan's country sound really good. From what I've heard so far, the dialogue has improve also, it sounds more like dialogue from the books.
I'm still confused about the sea serpent and dragon fight. Wish we knew more about that. <_<
Now now, that may be the only part where Caspian mentions Susan. He'll probably ask where Susan and Peter are once they get on the boat and that will be the end of it, I hope.
I read in the NW forum that someone thought the two giants were a bunch of dufflepuds standing atop one another, like piggyback or something, to make themselves seem bigger and more frightening than they really are. I like the idea!
Amen, sister! 🙂 I completely agree. Hollywood (and most books today) can't just have a simple male-female friendship. Even if it starts out that way, it always becomes something "more."
Did someone hold a gun to your head and make you read the comments?
Last winter, my sister and I were coming up with ways VDT would be "Hollywood-ified." My guess was that the Seven Lords would have something magical they wanted to keep away from Miraz. Looks like I wasn't too far off the mark, sadly. This sounds terrible!! Especially the part about the White Witch on Dark Island. Wow, they went further than I thought they would. Do they have to gather all seven swords to bring them to the table on Ramandu's Island (where the stone knife is)? Just thiking…
Pepper darcy, your comment is so encouraging! It makes me feel much better. Really, all this petty stuff everyone's complaining about sounds like a lot of hot air to me. What I was reading in those spoilers (and you can bet I read EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.) sounded pretty dang good to me. EXCEPT for that about the witch coming back as a sea-seperent. You're right, that would be corny (not to mention a touch demonic as well as the WW is DEAD) and that's just not Narnia. But you're so right, there's no PROOF that that's how it is. And I think this movie will be awesome. I have the highest hopes still. Oh, and will you guys give it a rest about "Why does Caspian think Lucy's Susan?" Why does it MATTER? It sounds like a perky, funny line to me, and doesn't smack of "Suspian" in the least.
I know! I was spoiler-free for PC (which didn't turn out very happily for me), so I've been reading spoilers for VDT. Now I'm regretting it…too much to worry about. The movie's doomed!
as a fanfic writer, I don't think it sounds all that fanficish. I agree with the person who said it was funny. I think it's going to be a fun line.