Ramandu’s Daughter Given a Name – Lilliandil
We were contacted by someone within the production who shared a few tidbits of information with us regarding the character of Ramandu’s Daughter.
First, the lovely actress who was the stand-in for the character of Ramandu’s Daughter is Stefania Duncan; 21 year old model and actress from Queensland Australia. Her profile can be seen on StarNow.com here.
Second, the character has been given a name for this movie: Lilliandil. Tirian can confirm this name from The Voyage of the Dawn Treader footage he saw a few months ago. He also mentioned that Douglas Gresham was the one who created this name. Very pretty!
I agree and i hope that she plays her role to our verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry high expectations 🙂
My question: how did you get LotRish out of Lilliandil? Just Sayin'. *You glare at me* What? It is a very good Question.
The books say nothing about her mother. ;P
That's funny, Will actually DID do that stunt. (It has been mentioned in lots of interviews with him on PC.)
You can get a picture at gravatar.com 🙂 I'm so glad Mr. Gresham gave "Lilliandil" a name!
huh, i don't know if I really like that.
Wow, that is so fascinating! Thanks so much for sharing what you found out about her name!
I totally DISAGREE! Ben Barnes is amazingly hot, talented and awesome! The way they made him look made him seem 18ish, just the right age to ascend the throne. Since VDT is three years after that he would be 22. An age when most young men would be married off in the earth-related time.
Well, i do. Stella or Estelle(that was too fancy for me) means Star in Latin. Now do you see my Logic? Wait a sec….were you commenting on my comment or the story?
I just got dared to do this. to any of you who play the game (the game is where you try not to think about the game, and if you do, you shout "I lost the game" so that everyone around you will lose the game too)anyhoooooooo…..
I LOST THE GAME!!!!!!!
STELLA!
It's fitting for Ramandu's daughter. Bravo, Mr. Gresham.
Note my explanation above.
Hhmmmmm, I'm not to keen on it. It somewhat reminds me of Lilith…. I'm not sure why that name has negative connotations in my mind, but it does >.< I think it has something to do with Narnia fandom *chuckles* ya know you're a fan when you constantly get cannon and fandom mixed up 😛
~VFK~
No, it is Douglas Gresham. But you did good in trying. =)
What do you mean?
Your right, I was a little mean when I said you couldn't call her what you wanted. You can actually call her whatever you want. Sorry! =(
Me too! LIke yesturday i could have sworn i saw a centaur!
What?
BOO now I lost the game darnit xD
Well, the actress shown here isn't the one who plays Lilliandil. She's just the stand-in. The actual actress playing the character is Laura Brent.
I thought her mom was human. From what I remember, it seemed to be implied that she was only part-star :p
You think Gabrielle Anwar is ugly? Wow…
Really? When I was riding bike, my brother and I thought we saw a Griffon! I am not making jokes either.
i think instead of Lilliandil they should have made it just Lillian
yea i think so too. The LWW stayed true to the book but Prince Caspian was a little disappointing, Especially when ur expecting something great in the theaters. that just sucks. anyways i really hope they stay true to the book
Love the name!!
Just to correct your grammar a bit Quenya – the word 'lírinen' is actually the instrumental case of the noun 'lírë,' meaning 'song.' Adding the ending '-nen' makes it 'because of song.'
Since you know the word I assume you are familiar with the 'Namárië' poem – there is another instance of the instrumental case there in the word 'súrinen' – because of the wind. 😉
The closest two words to 'Lillian' in Quenya that I am aware of are the verbs 'lala' (to laugh) and 'lelya' (to go), neither of which is terribly similar.
I agree with all said about the ending '-dil;' good work. That's the first thing I thought of when I saw the name.
I would hardly think Mr. Gresham would be that deep into Quenya grammar anyway. 😛 The name is very suitable as far as I'm concerned; it has a real sort of Narnian ring. ^)
One of my friends taught me the game. it is all in the rules
Me niether but i could have sworn that horse had a human face….maybe someone was just riding it. IDK but it is funner to think that there might be some magic in this world afterall.
Lillian is too not Middle Ages to be in Narnia. if it was Lily, then yes cuz that is a flower that was found in the Middle Ages as well as in the present
To all my fello Narnia addicts I LOST THE GAME.
My main problem with the PC movie was that it skipped or sped through a lot of the book scenes (I always loved the part when the children first get into Narnia, and everything feels so mysterious and adventurous, and I feel that the movie didn't portray it right. I also missed all the parts where Caspian is growing up, and the moonlit walk of faith behind Aslan) and put in a bunch of scenes that were just unnecessary not nearly as good. And I didn't like how they changed the characters. I liked some parts of the movie, but I'm afraid it did disappoint me. It could have been so much better if they'd done a few things differently.
Okay, didn't mean to make another complaint about PC. I just hope the Dawn Treader at least lives up to most of my expectations, and those of other Narnia fans as well. 🙂
I think she was a nice-looking girl…just maybe not Star material. Ramandu's daughter (ahem…Lilliandil) is supposed to be the definition of true beauty, not just a reasonably pretty girl with blond hair.
But no offence to the actress. I certainly wouldn't call her ugly.
Wow, even if Elvish is an imaginary language, Tolkien sure put some work into it. And you guys know all about it! If ever any Middle Earth elves show up, you'll be able to chat with them like old pals! 😉
But I'm still not convinced that Gresham was trying to make up a grammatically correct Elvish name. This is Narnia after all, not not Middle Earth. If anything I would think he'd try to avoid any connection with elves. But still you never know.
I saw a white stag out my window, and it wasn't just an alibino buck…becuase it did have a small stripe of light brown on it's back. I was all excited and called up another Narnian fan!!
Actually, if you took a close look at the Finnish language, you'd find it strangely familiar. Tolkien used it for some of his elvish.
Because perhaps the stand in for Caspian would be spending time with the stand in for Lilliandil. 😉
The "dil" seems tacked on, but it's a pretty name, nonetheless. I actually wished for RD to remain nameless, as I'm half purist, but I'll have to cope, obviously. I do like the name, and I don't think it's too LotRish, either.
VFK, the reason that you have a negative connotation with Lilith is because the WW is descended from Lilith, who "was Adam's first wife".
I did not mean to offend or come across as harsh. An expression perhaps, but perhaps something a little more… "correct"? would be better.
William did not do the drawbridge stunt. "Insurance wouldn't cover it" and "his stunt double was quite happy: drinking tea everyday except for the drawbridge". William did every other stunt (such as with the duel with Miraz or at the end of the Night Raid when he runs with his horse, kicks a Telmarine down, then jumps on), but not that one.
Thanks, Haggith Tarkheena! And I do take into consideration the meanings of names, so I do agree with you that "Esther" works just as well! 😀
Yeah, that would be cool considering how corrupt this world is already.
Wow, Quenya, I've read LotR (and The Silmarillion and the appendices) but I never really researched all that kind of stuff. Whether or not your thought is correct, it's a nice explanation anyway! I must say that I like it!
Ok….so I can agree she needed more than "Ramandu's daughter" but doesn't any other hardcore Narnia fan like me think that it sounds a bit too much like Lilith? (for anyone that doesn't know, Lilith is the supposedly Adam's other wife who was a jinn, aka: evil ancestor of Jadis the White Witch)???????
And it sounds a bit too "Lord of the Rings".
Also, itsn't…um…."Lilliandil" supposed to be indescribably beautiful?…I mean, this chick is pretty but not a traffic stopper or anything. She looks very "hot girl walking down the street" more than "exotic star-descended beauty" Didn't the book say that "And when they looked at her they thought they had never before known what beauty meant"?
well I guess its all opinions…..
ok….that's awesome..Ramandu's daughter
has a name and we know who's playing her…
now….WHO ON EARTH IS PLAYING RAMANDU????
Correct according to whom?
I think Lucy and Edmund are a little more mature than that.
You are right, the Finnish language was the influence for the Quenya or high elvish whereas Welsh was the influence for the Sindarin or sylvan elvish (Yes I'm wearing my geek hat right now…..). In the movies most of the spoken elvish is Sindarin, taking the Welsh influence of course. There are some beautiful moments where Quenya is used though:)
Hey, I just had a thought! The Silver Sea might have had some influence on her name, as the other consideration for the sea was Lily Lake.
u might b right lol B)
I personally liked Ramanda better. 🙂
That would be awsome! They should make a blooper with it.
That would be halarious.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.=)
OMG i just remembered that. Also Lilliandil blonde like the witch
Cool!! Now I can stop calling her Ramandu's Daughter and start calling her Lilliandil!
Ramanda? too close to Ramandu & sounds sort of like a soup… that's just my opinion though.
I think that is a great name for Ramndus Daughter. I hope the actress can play her real well. I think Johnny Depp would make the perfect Puddleglum! He is tall and thin and very used to having pale skin and strange hair and he also does different voices very well. Is it just me or can anyone else this him as making a great Puddleglum?
think*