New Set Photo of the Dragon Cave?
MundoNarnia has a new set photo. We don’t know for sure if it’s for The Voyage of the Dawn Treader or not, but it looks like it could be the dragon cave full of treasure.
They also have some concept art and set photos from an earlier shoot. You can check them all out here.
Thanks to Narniamiss for the heads up!
Ok I get the book is about religion but please don't make any comments about religion I just want to enjoy Narnia without going to church.
Aravis Tarkheena,
I respect your comments. We are not trying to make you go to church while you read the book. We are just discussing how we read the book. This is a discussion page! 😀 Sorry if you are offended by our comments. We aren't trying to offend anyone. We are just having a conversation.
I will be praying for you! 😀
There is nothing wrong with her starting a blog about this! She has a genuine passion for this. It is not something that she is trying to shove down people's throats. Everyone can decide whether or not they want to participate. 🙂 No one is being forced here. 😀
Fire Fairy….Are you a firm bible-only believer?
When is the new New coming out i've been waiting…………
has anyone heard news about who will play Ramandu ??
I know I keep asking, but I'm curious how they
are planning on introducing the actor…..perhaps they want to keep it a surprise?
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Finally can get back on.
Aunt Letty, your example of the young calormene was I believe Lewis's expression of Romans 2:14-16. While I firmly believe that we only have salvation in Christ, He will always try to show even the un-believer.
Aravis;
When those of like interests find one another they will discuss that interest.
Like narnia4ever I can respect you, But please show us the same respect by not trying to limit our enjoyment of our faith together.
Another thought dealing with the movies themselves. Has anyone heard if there are any plans to make The Magician's Nephew? You wouild think that they would need that to help explain the professores connection to Narnia, as well as the rings that Peter, and Edmund dig up.
narnia fan4ever;
I will make one comment on the "boy-girl" issue discussed on the other page.
An old poem I will most likely do no justice to goes like this;
God did not take a bone from Adam's foot, for him to stand above Eve.
Nore did He take a bone from Adam's head for her to stand above him.
Rather, He took a rib,
So that Adam may protect Eve under his arm.
Also that she may be there to support him in his times of weakness.
Exactly Right. I agree with you completely. In a marriage, the man is to protect the woman, and the woman to respect the man. But they are also to help each other….you know, "Be a help-meet" 🙂 God said that it is not good for man to be alone.
That is a really cool way to put it. I think all of the young boys at our church should hear that. Keep the story of Aslan alive!
narniafan4ever ♥: ditto. Fire Fairy: what's your source for all this?
Aravis: why do I feel bad for Skandar? Because he doesn't believe in God, his Creator and Redeemer. Skandar doesn't believe in the One who created him in His image and formed his heart to love and worship Him alone. He doesn't believe in the One who loves him more than anyone else on this earth, who died for him on a cross and paid the debt of sin [Jesus Christ!]. That's why I mourn for Skandar. Saying "God bless you" is cheap if he doesn't believe in God. And it won't save him, which is what I care about. 🙁
ok so I was reading the vdt and for some reason I just dont see Ben Barnes playing Caspian!! I always thought the whole arguement about the accent was dumb and not important but I think that was one of the reasons that I dont see him playing it and also he's supposed to be blond. I dont know maybe I just got to used to the bbc movies. Comments??
I honestly cannot remember the authors name, but I put it in cards whenever I'm invited to weddings.
I've read the Space Trilogy. I'd like to read The Screwtape Letters eventually; I have the book. I did start reading it but never finished.
Me too. I got used to the BBC. I think the movie will be fine though when it comes out.
I would have preferred a younger actor for the role. I can see some complications when they try to fit him in at the end by the time they make the Silver Chair.
Also enjoyed BBC version. Tom Baker was a perfect "ahem" Marsh-Wiggle.
But I must also admit the people in animal outfits were a little tacky.
No, I'm not bible-only. This is from my religion; it's modern revelation. Like I said, this is my personal beliefs. I don't intend on putting anybody down or anything. It's just what I believe.
I've heard that they plan on making all seven books into movies.
That's really cool! Is it okay if I copy it so I can have it as a quote?
I haven't seen the second half of the BBC VDT and SC at all. I really should, though. I agree with you, though. The thing about the BBC versions of the movies that bothered my brother and I the most were the way the animals were portrayed. We understood that that was the best technology they had at the time, but we just didn't find it very believable. Same with the ghosts and spectors in the BBC LWW, and the battle. It really annoyed us that they stood in the same spot and wove a sword around like a little kid would a stick. As much as we loved the stories, we had a hard time watching the BBC movies. The only reason we ever watched them was because it was all we had (we didn't know about the cartoon version). But that's probably because we love movies as an art form and are always trying to figure out how they did something and all that.
Haha! I've already done that with 2 quotes by you and narniafan4ever ♥ on Twitter. 😉
Fire Fairy: we ALL need to be Bible-only. We don't need modern revelation. Because the Bible is God's final revelation of Himself. Jesus Christ is the living Word. He is the One whom the Bible points to. He wrote the Bible. And the Holy Spirit reveals Christ to us through it. So I believe what the Bible says. Read J. I. Packer's book "Truth and Power: The Place of Scripture in the Christian Life." http://www.ccel.us/packer.toc.html
Yeah, that is another quote for me to put on my bedroom mirror….lol. I won't be able to see the mirror pretty soon! 😀
The good thing about the books, Horse and his boy, and the Magician's Nephew are that they can be done without the current actor's. Unless they wanted to re-introduce those who played the older Kings and Queens just before they returned to "our" world.
But Magician's Nephew must be done before the Last Battle, for the reasons I've stated before.
Fire Fairy;
Be my guest. As I said, I can't recall the author, but I cannot think copyright would be an issue.
220chrisTian, I think that's great that you believe so firmly in the bible. However, I would like to point out that my belief in modern revelation in no way diminishes my belief in the bible. In fact, it only strengthens it. In Hebrews 13:8 (KJV), it says, "Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever." Malachi 3:6 also says, "For I am the Lord, I change not…" If the Lord is unchanging why would he speak to His children in ancient times, yet not now? I know you don't believe in things other than the bible, so you probably won't think much of this, but in The Book of Mormon (yes, I'm Mormon. I'll admit it!) in 2 Nephi 29:7,9-10, the Lord explains why the bible is not the only revelation, "Know ye not that there are more nations than one? Know ye not that I, the Lord your God, have created all men, and that I remember those that are upon the isles of the sea; and that I rule in the heavens above and in the earth beneath; and I bring foth my word unto the children of men, yea, even upon all the nations of the earth?…And I do this that I may prove unto many that I am the same yesterday, today, and forever; and that I speak forth my words according to mine own pleasure. And because that I ahve spoken one word ye need not suppose that I cannot speak another; for my work is not yet finished; neither shall it be until shall it be until the end of man, neither from that time henceforth and forever. Wherefore, because that ye have a Bible ye need not suppose that it contains all my words; neither need ye supppose that I have not caused more to be written."
I hope you're not offended. I'm not trying to prove you wrong, and I respect your beliefs. I'm just showing you why I personally believe in more than the bible. 🙂
220chrisTian, another thing on what you said. You said that Christ is the one whom the Bible points to. And I agree fully; so why can't there be more that point to Him? The full title of The Book of Mormon is The Book of Mormon: Another Testament of Jesus Christ. ANOTHER testament. Many people think we are not christian because we are "Mormons". What many people don't realize, though, is that is simply a nickname. Our official name is "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints". In other words, all of the scripture we believe in and all of our teachings point to Christ. Over half the verses in The Book of Mormon refer in some way or another to Christ. I'm not trying to be preachy or anything, I'm simply trying to clear up a common misunderstanding about my religion. I believe in Christ and the Bible just as firmly as a Bible-only Christian. I just believe that He is not done speaking to His people.
Thank you!
Wow, narniawebbers, I'm out of breath from trotting up to that "reply" button again. You guys are truly amazing.
I see that this topic has caused some discomfort. I hope not enough to scare anyone off. This is a place for all us Narnia fanatics to enjoy each others' fanaticism, so come one come all! Aravis, if the scriptural discussion isn't your cup of tea, do start another topic, and we'll all be glad to join you. There's lots to discuss. These discussions do tend to veer into the scriptures, though, because that's squarely where the author was coming from, as you said.
Fire Fairy, I was just released as RS pres. 🙂 .
I hope we can all "enjoy our faith together" and not be like those who consider different beliefs from their own to be unworthy of consideration or respect. That would be Shift the Ape's way of dealing with the situation.
Puddleglum, Rom. 2:14-16 expresses what happens with the Calormene perfectly, in my opinion. Or vice versa, as the case is.
It sounds as though everyone is in agreement that the dwarves are representational of atheists, undaunted unbelievers in the Word. What do you make of the way they are dealt with? What do you think Lewis was trying to express of his personal belief in regard to Aslan's attitude toward them? Given that the stable door seems to represent an exit from the mortal life, what was Lewis saying about the end condition of those who simply refuse to believe? And, do you agree with his view?
If anyone wants to hear my thoughts on this, I'll give them, but I'm more interested in hearing others' input, if they want to express it.
Wow, narniawebbers, I’m out of breath from trotting up to that "reply" button again. You guys are truly amazing.
I see that this topic has caused some discomfort. I hope not enough to scare anyone off. This is a place for all us Narnia fanatics to enjoy each others’ fanaticism, so come one come all! Aravis, if the scriptural discussion isn’t your cup of tea, do start another topic, and we’ll all be glad to join you. There’s lots to discuss. These discussions do tend to veer into the scriptures, though, because that’s squarely where the author was coming from, as you said.
Fire Fairy, I was just released as RS pres. .
I hope we can all "enjoy our faith together" and not be like those who consider different beliefs from their own to be unworthy of consideration or respect. That would be Shift the Ape’s way of dealing with the situation.
Puddleglum, Rom. 2:14-16 expresses what happens with the Calormene perfectly, in my opinion. Or vice versa, as the case is.
It sounds as though everyone is in agreement that the dwarves are representational of atheists, undaunted unbelievers in the Word. What do you make of the way they are dealt with? What do you think Lewis was trying to express of his personal belief in regard to Aslan’s attitude toward them? Given that the stable door seems to represent an exit from the mortal life, what was Lewis saying about the end condition of those who simply refuse to believe? And, do you agree with his view?
If anyone wants to hear my thoughts on this, I’ll give them, but I’m more interested in hearing others’ input, if they want to express it.
And, I'm posting this twice (sorry!!) because I somehow mis-posted it way above here. sorry, sorry…
oh, my goodness, yes, the funky little beaver costumes…:).
But, they did a great job of staying with the voice and tone of the books, don't you think? Much more so than the current movies. I wonder if people who saw the new movies first and then went to the books out of curiosity would be taken aback by the differences of style? Anyone have any experience of this?
Off-topic; has anyone else noticed that british writers seem to come up with the best stories for childhood and beyond? My kids tend to speak slightly in british vernacular from spending so many hours with Lewis, Tolkien, Rowling, Pratchett, Wynne-Jones, Sutcliff, and others, as well as all the superb british drama we have on video (we don't do t.v., just video).
I'm not sure that this is a perfect "fit" scripturally, but here goes.
Aslan's reaction to the dwarves may be compaired to Jesus's reaction to the rich young ruler. When the man turned away, Jesus made no attempt to chase him down, no forced conversion, no watering down of the gospel to make it less "offensive". Jesus just loved him.
I hear what you're saying, Puddleglum, and I agree that there is evidence of compassion and of allowing the dwarves their agency, or freedom of choice. Which is what you and I are scripturally commanded to give to all, in emulation of our Lord, Jesus Christ. This situation with these "atheistic" dwarves has an interesting wrinkle, however.
What I'm getting at, primarily, is that this scene takes place on the INSIDE of the stable. In other words, these dwarves have exited mortality, and therefore, in the reality that Lewis' created here, Aslan's actions constitute a Judgement, in effect. I do not see any evidence of them being cast into any hellish state for their choice. I do see them simply existing in the reality they choose to accept. It's an interesting little twist on things.
CofN, while uplifting and thought-provoking, isn't scripture, nor would Lewis wish it to be treated as such I'm sure, so it's foolish to look too closely at it for doctrinal implications, nevertheless, I think it possible Lewis was saying something here about his personal beliefs in regard to how God judges the fool and unbeliever.
(And, before anyone takes offense, the word 'fool' here refers to one who has been deceived by untruth, not someone who is necessarily lacking in brains. In fact, often as not, it is the "smart" among us who are easy to fool.)
Well, Aunt Letty….if you remember, the whole world is destroyed at the end of the book. Well, our world will be destroyed once all the believers have been caught up with Jesus and go to the New City. So, they could be representing the fact that all the wicked are destroyed for ever. They aren't burning Hell forever. God wouldn't do that. All the wicked are destroyed in, yes, an unquenchable fire…but an unquenchable fire doesn't mean it never goes out, it just mean no one puts it out. Like, think about a fire in your wood stove; It burns until there is nothing left to burn, then it goes out. So, I think that maybe the dwarfs are just one representation of those who may not worship THE God, or any other god like Tash, but they are still destroyed at the end of time. 🙂
Just my idea of it….what do you think?
Awesome! I wonder what the dragon will look like?
lol me too brilliantnorthernstar. that what my name implies 🙂
220cristian that is very bold and powerful of you. i think its amazing when cristians finally stand up and go out of their way to make Him known. ya know one reason i love the narnia books is the hidden cristian values that c.s. lewis put into it. i'll be praying along side of you, not just for skander but for everyone. you know i dont know if he's read the narnia books or not, but i know for a fact they can really change you! and people, there's another book out there that can change you even more: the bible! all i can say for now is that 220cristian is right. God can change you life in the most unbelievable way! He loves you all, each and every one of you, so much! and i know, that once you become His, your life will never be the same.
you know i think its amazing when we begin to talk about stuff like this. i always knew narnia would bring up conversations like this. well, lets face it, we're all different. i refuse to say that any religion is the right one because, truly, i have no say in it. i am a firm believer in my own religion, and i will do what i believe to do. indeed, i am to go out and be a "prophet unto the nations". (i think only fellow cristians will understand that) i am not to go out and scold and force others to believe what i believe. ya know why? because we human beings have been given a free choice. we have the reward of free choice, to choose our religion, our beliefs, our faith. and because i am a cristian, and this is what the bible says, this is a promise from God, that though He loves us so much, and wants all of us with Him, He kept a promise He made when man was born. sometimes we never realize it, but we truly have the ultimate freedom of all things: the choice of yes or no. i will still be praying for everyone, because though we have that freedom, i can at least be a help to people in making that choice when the Time comes. one day we will all stand before the Gates, and we will be asked: "yes…or no?"
I never noticed that before! Great observations!
Aunt Letty, I have noticed that a lot. I love all those books, and listen to their audio counterparts as well. Sometimes I even find myself slipping into an English accent, because I've seen and heard so many English actors perform from these books 😀 There are very few fiction novels that I can compare to Lewis, Tolkien, Lloyd and Rowling. Perhaps the American culture affects American authors in a negative way…
Also, as I am a writer, I tend to lean towards British-type settings and British speaking characters. I suppose it's because I spend so much of my reading time with those kinds of books.
Hopefully a bit better than the BBC one 😉
Fire Fairy, I believe divine revelation ended with the book of Revelation, c. AD 90. God still speaks to me regularly. But I must compare what I hear with the Bible because it is God's final revelation. Why? The devil deceives and I don't want to be deceived. And sometimes I have an active imagination. So I need an external, authoritative source. And I have it in God's Word. But I can't force you to believe the way I do. Still, I want to share these verses with you. They explain my problem with the book of Mormon. Isaiah 8:20: "To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them." 2 Corinthians 11:4: "For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him." Galatians 1:8-9: "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed."
God speaks to me through His Word. Many times He's reminded me of a verse and it will be just what I need for a situation. Other times He'll relieve a prayer burden. In March God whispered to me part of Isaiah 49:15-16: "Can a woman forget her sucking child, that she should not have compassion on the son of her womb? Yea, they may forget, yet will I not forget thee. Behold, I have graven thee on the palms of my hands; thy walls are continually before me." You have no idea how comforting this was! But this is how God regularly speaks to me: through His Word.
220chrisTian, I really do appreciate your insight. You have very valid claims for your beliefs. However, I want to point out that we do not preach of "another Jesus," nor do we preach "another Gospel". What our church teaches us is the same Gospel that was preached to the Jews and early Christians. "We believe in the same organization that existed in the primative church, namely Apostles, Prophets, Pastors, Teachers, Evangelists, etc." "We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the kingdom of God." The Christ that visited the ancient Americans was the same Christ that walked among the Jews; the only difference was that He was resurrected. He taught the ancient Americans the same things He taught the Jews. He simply visited another people to deliver them the same message He brought to the Jews.
Another thing. 220chrisTian, did you know that Revelation was written before some of Paul's epistles to the Gentiles? Just because it was placed in the end of the Bible doesn't exactly mean it was the end of divine revelation.
Okay, I think we've both argued enough. I'd love to hear what you have to say about this, but after that, can we be done? I get the feeling we'll both be very dogmatic about the subject, and therefore we'll never get anywhere. I respect your opinion; all I'm asking is that you'll respect mine. 🙂
This is a very interesting discussion. For once I'm actually not going to refer to the bible. The dwarves' situation actually reminds me of Dante's Inferno. I don't know who's read it, but those who have, the Dwarves' situation makes me think of limbo, made for the "fence-sitters" in life, because neither Heaven nor Hell would take them in. Their fate was to chase a flag, never being able to catch it, all the while being stung by wasps. The dwarves were "for the dwarves" and couldn't be "taken in". In essence, they were choosing not to choose, and would therefore never find the happiness nor punishment they could have had.
yes, narniafan, I think you have it there with, "no one puts it (the fire) out". Hell, or damnation, or destruction is perhaps a state of mind as much as anything. As we've said in our last discussion; a choice.
You're right. We've both argued enough. 1. After checking online, I see that Revelation wasn't written last. But it was almost last! John was an old man on the island of Patmos. The only later books are his epistes: 1,2,3 John. However, Paul's epistles were the earliest NT books, written before the Gospels. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Testament [imperfect but plenty of info] 2. Jesus Christ came to this earth as a Jew for Jews. He is their Messiah. Jesus witnessed to and helped many Gentiles. But He came for Jews. During His trial and crucifixion, Jesus was called "King of the Jews" [Matthew 27:11,29,37; John 19:19]. It was only after His ascension that the gospel spread to Gentiles [Cornelius, Acts 10]. Check out Matthew 10:5-6, 15:24. Also, the place of Jesus' ministry was Israel. He never left it. I'm curious: according to Mormons, when did Jesus go to ancient Americans? And if so, how?
That's very interesting! I knew that Revelation was not last, but I wasn't actually sure about the order the books were written. Thanks for looking that up!
According to the Book of Mormon, Christ came to the ancient Americans in A.D. 34, only a few months after His death and resurrection.
As to how, I think the best way to put it is to just quote the Book of Mormon. In 3 Nephi 11:3-12 (I apologize, it's kind of long, but it's a very long account), it says:
"And it came to pass that while they were thus conversing one with another, they heard a voice as if it came out of heaven; and they cast their eyes round about, for they understood not the voice whitch they heard; and it was not a harsh voice, neither was it a loud voice; nevertheless…it did pierce them that did hear to the center, insomuch that there was no part of their frame that it did not cause to quake; yea, it did pierce them to the very soul, and did cause their hearts to burn.
"And it came to pass that again they heard the voice, and they understoood it not.
"And again the third time they did hear the voice, and did open their ears to hear it; and their eyes were towards the sound thereof; and they did look steadfastly towards heaven, from whence the sound came.
"And behold, the third time they did understand the voice which they heard; and it said unto them:
"Behold my Beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased, in whom I have glorified my name–hear ye him.
"And it came to pass, as they understood they cast their eyes up again towards heaven; and behold, they saw a Man descending out of heaven; and he was clothed in a white robe; and he came down and stood in the midst of them; and the eyes of the whole multitude were turned upon him, and they durst not open their mouths, even one to another, and wist not what it meant, for they thought it was an angel that had appeared unto them.
"And it came to pass that he stretched forth his hand and spake unto the people, saying:
"Behold, I am Jesus Christ, whom the prophets testified shall come into the world.
"And behold, I am the light and the life of the world; and I have drunk out of that bitter cup which the Father hath given me, and have glorified the Father in taking upon me the sins of the world, in the which I have suffered the will of the Father in all things from the beginning.
"And it came to pass that when Jesus had spoken these words the whole multitude fell to the earth; for they remembered that it had been prophesied among them that Christ should show himself unto them after his ascension into heaven."
The account goes on for several more chapters, but, in essence, Christ shows them the prints of nails in his hands and feet and has them touch them, blesses the sick and afflicted, blesses the children, introduces the sacrament, quotes Isaiah, gives them the Sermon on the Mount, and chooses twelve men to lead the ancient Americans as disciples (not apostles, because the twelve apostle were in Jerusalem). I suggest reading it for yourself if you would like to see what He teaches them and whether you think He really was the same Jesus that went to the Jews. But, yeah, that's the gist of it. 🙂
Yeah, I know what you mean. It's a bit of a liability, what with the whole "write what you know" adage. I only know fictional Britain.
By the way, 220chrisTian, I know I just submitted a VERY long comment, but I just read the scriptures you've recommended, and thought I'd add something that you wouldn't have known. Did you know that the Book of Mormon teaches that the ancient Americans were a branch of the house of Israel? Lehi, the man who took his family out of Jerusalem, into the wilderness, and across the ocean to America was a descendant of Joseph. That's why we teach in our church that Ezekial 37:15-17 is about the Book of Mormon, "…take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah…then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph…And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in they hand." We believe that the stick, or record, of Judah is the bible, and the stick of Joseph is the Book of Mormon.
Unfortunatly I must agree with you about most writers in the US. We just do not have many Mark Twains in modern American liturature.
Though I do hold out hope. Frank Paretti comes to mind, though he has not come up with anything of late. Believe it or not you might find a good story teller in the Christian romances. Mrs. Puddleglum has become quite stuck on some authors, Janette Oake being one, Karen Kingsbury is another.
Anything would be better than a man in an ill fitting costume.
Yep, you hit it right on the head, 220chrisTian! I applaud you for your boldness. 😀
I hope you don't mind if I add something to this discussion…
Fire Fairy: The verse you are referring to in Ezekiel 37 is talking about the fact that Judah and Israel would be reunited and that the kingdom would be reunited. The writer of this book was prophesying about the time when all the Israelites were gathered back together and under God's care as one unit. Just read verses 22 and 23. Ezekiel is explaining that they two sticks represented the split of the Israelites and that they would be joined back together as one.
Also, if your book of Mormon says that it is another book inspired by God, then why doesn't the bible say that it is another book to listen to? I think that the bible would say very clearly if there was another book that was to go along with it. And if you recall, it says in the bible….im sory i don't remember the verse….that we are not to add of take away to God's word.
So, I am not trying to offend you or anything,Fire Fairy. I just thought I would add my two cents. lol 😀
Aunt Letty,
Just so we are clear….I believe that the Bible doesn't preach an eternal-burning hell. That would not be something that a loving God would do. He doesn't delight in the destruction of the wicked. So, it would be even more painful for God to have all these people he created being eternally tortured. God destroys Satan and Hell in the end….then His people along with Him live for eternity with him. 🙂 I mean, how would you be able to let your own child that you had born to be daily tortured for all of his life just because he didn't obey your commands? I mean, you still love that child, just not his actions. So, God loves everyone and wants them all to be able to live with Him of r eternity. But, God can't live in the presence of sin. So, he created an easier way than continually sacrificing animals for our sins and had Jesus come and die to be that Ultimate Sacrifice. Now, we just have to accept that gift. But, because of free will and that fact that Satan makes the sinful way seem so pleasant, that some will reject that Gift and as a result have to be destroyed because sin has to be destroyed.
Whew, I leave for a couple days, come back,and there are a BUNCH of comments…. In any case, nonetheless, I had a hard time believing the BBC adaptations too, Fire Fairy. They just didn't seem realistic (to top off all the animals and stuff, all the battles were in slow motion!). But Aunt Letty, I think they did a fine job staying in the spirit of the books. There was none of this "save-the-world" epic stuff.