New Set Photo of the Dragon Cave?
MundoNarnia has a new set photo. We don’t know for sure if it’s for The Voyage of the Dawn Treader or not, but it looks like it could be the dragon cave full of treasure.
They also have some concept art and set photos from an earlier shoot. You can check them all out here.
Thanks to Narniamiss for the heads up!
Mark 16:19, Luke 24:51, and Acts 1:9-10 describe Christ's ascension to heaven. When did this happen? 40 days after His resurrection. As the disciples gazed up into heaven, two angels said, "This same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven" [Acts 1:11]. This is the promise of the Second Coming of Christ. And guess what? It hasn't happened yet. We're waiting for Jesus to return to earth a SECOND time, not a third. That's what Revelation is all about. 19:11–"And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse and He that sat upon him was called Faithful and True…"–describes Christ's return to earth. This is what we're waiting for. This is our living hope. And when He returns, He won't come back with scars in His hands and feet. We'll see what John saw in Revelation 1:13-16 and 19:11-16. Please read these passages.
The BBC did have the advantage of more time to fit more of the books dialoge in.
Two lines I particularly missed in PC;
When Aslan was restoring Reepacheep's tail He told him why the mice could talk. After they "freed" His body on the stone table.
Also, when Aslan tells the Telmarens that they were descended from brigands, Caspian wished to have a more noble liniage. He is told that to be a Son of Adam was enough to make proud the lowest begger, and humble the greatest king.
I do not have the books in front of me, so I hope I have the quotes right.
I am just wondering how they will do the scene where Aslan "sheds" Eustace's skin.
No, narniafan4ever, I'm not at all offended. I actually relish the chance to test my knowledge of the scriptures. 😀
narniafan4ever: on what you said about Ezekial, in my church we are taught that "stick" is a reference to the records of the Jews, which were scrolls, and were rolled up on a stick. We are also taught that the phrase "and they shall become one in thy hand" is a prophecy of the last days (now), when the "stick of Judah" and the "stick of Joseph" come together and are in one book, like our "quads" today, which is our version of the scriptures, where the Book of Mormon and the Bible are located in one book. I can't argue much more about it, other than that's what I'm taught, because we'll both stick to our interpretation of the scripture. 😉 As to the bible telling of another book, the only time it does that is in Isaiah 29:11-12. This actually happened during the translation of the Book of Mormon, when a man helping Joseph Smith translate took a copy of the characters written on the gold plates to a professor of ancient languages, who tells him the characters are actual ancient characters. The professor then asked if he could see the book so he could translate it. The man tells him that he can't, because the book is sealed (a large portion of the gold plates was sealed by a large metal band, and was never translated). The professor then angrily hands the characters back to the man, saying, "I cannot read a sealed book". The part in verse 12 referring to "him that is not learned" is talking about Joseph Smith, who had no more than a third grade education. The only other verse I can offer you is John 10:16, which says "And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd." In the Book of Mormon, in 3 Nephi 15:19,21-24, Christ tells the ancient Americans the meaning of this verse: "But, verily…the Father hath commanded me, and I tell it unto you, that ye were separated from among them [the Jews] because of their iniquity; therefore it is because of their iniquity that they know not of you. And verily I say unto you, that ye are they of whom I said: Other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. And they understood me not, for they supposed it had been the Gentiles; for they understood not that the Gentiles should be converted through their preaching. And they understood me not that I said they shall hear my voice; and they understood me not that the Gentiles should not at any time hear my voice–that I chould not manifest myself unto them save it were by the Holy Ghost. But behold, ye have both heard my voice, and seen me; and ye are my sheep, and ye are numbered among those whom the Father hath given me."
220chrisTian, I did read those verses, and you make a very good point. All I can say is that in my church we are taught that this was part of His first coming. I can't remember where it says it, but somewhere in the Old Testament it says that the first time Christ will come, it will be as a "Prince of Peace", and that He will come the second time as a liberator. I'm not sure where it says that. On when He comes again, in my church we are taught that He will still have His wounds, but only for the convincing of the Jews. Nowhere in the verses you referred me to could I find anything that said He will return without wounds. I couldn't find anything about it in the bible, but in my church's Doctrine and Covenants 45: 51-53, Christ says, "And then shall the Jews look upon me and say: What are these wounds in thine hands and in they feet? Then shall they know that I am the Lord; for I will say unto them: These wounds are the wounds with which I was wounded in the house of my friends. I am he who was lifted up. I am Jesus that was crucified. I am the Son of God. And then shall they weep because of their iniquities; then shall they lament because they persecuted their king." We are taught that it is then that the Jews will finally come to realize and believe in Jesus Christ as their promised Messiah.
Oh, wow, talk about writing a novel…I better go now. 😉
Sorry- but does this discussion have anything to do with the topic? It's not that I want to discourage it; but I think we should keep it Narnia based.:) Correct me if I'm wrong, though!
Fire Fairy, I thought more about what you said. I don't want to offend you but this is what the Bible says. First of all, there’s no mention of America in the Bible. None! Why would God give “another testament/gospel” that directly contradicts the Bible? He never contradicts Himself. He never lies. Testaments: Old and New. There are no more. Matthew 26:28: “For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.” And regarding Jesus' hands and feet, Christ humored doubting Thomas by showing him His hands, feet, and side. But Jesus also rebuked him saying, “Blessed are they that have not seen and yet have believed” [John 20:29]. 2 Corinthians 5:16: “Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh; yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh [before His ascension], yet now henceforth know we Him no more.” It means we know Christ through the Spirit, i.e. through the Word. The Holy Spirit reveals Christ to us through the Word. “We walk by faith, not by sight” [2 Cor 5:7]. Christ gave the Sermon on the Mount once. Why give it again? Also, why make Americans a chosen people? Jews were God’s chosen people; now it’s all Christians everywhere. The gospel is international. It has been from the beginning. Why make Americans special? Why single them out this way? It's not biblical.
Aunt Letty….Just so you know, America IS in fact mentioned in the bible….but it is in revelation and that would take some time to explain…and this is really not the place for me to explain it anyways cause this is a Narnia Website, not bible trivia site…lol…unless you want to know…I will explain it then….but I agree with everything else. 😀
220chrisTian, all I can say is that Christ told the Americans that the Jews did not know of them because of their iniquity (as mentioned previously). Also, He never said the Americans were a chosen people, because He also told them that after He visited them He would be visiting the lost ten tribes of Israel. I don't have the time to look up all the scriptures right now. On the wounds in His hands and feet, I think we've reached a moot point. At this point, we're arguing our interpretations of the scriptures, rather than actual scripture itself, so we probably ought to just drop it. When we get to arguing interpretations, you're getting to a point where we're using opinion rather than fact, and that gets us nowhere. 🙂
hey this is Aravis's older sister, and i've been reading this stuff and yeah awsome that you believe n' all, i do too i'm catholic, BUT to some people this could be really offending so please shut the hell(as in the place) up i personailly do not like it and it sounds like a bunch of bull coming from somewhere other then a church
thank you and i lovers you all have a good day ;D
Yes, the book of Ezekiel has some clear and plain things to say about the subject of God's will for the wicked and that He does not delight in their destruction. I should give you chapter and verse, (it's highlighted in my Bible), but I'm so tired and it's late and I should also be in bed. I've stayed up too late, working on my novel.
Don't worry about it, we know what you mean. I'm always quoting them and then later discovering that I didn't quite get the quote right. You'd think I'd learn to pull a copy off the shelf and check first.
Yes, there was a whole, multifaceted discussion on that very subject a while back. Too bad we don't have page numbers on this message board, I could point you to it. It'd be too hard to find at this point, and now I really am off to bed…
narniafan4ever, I can't back up my claims right now (I'm not sure what verses in the bible back it up), but in my religion class, we talked about how even though God hates to see His children suffer, He is perfect, and therefore perfectly obedient to the laws He set. Justice demands that when a law is broken, a punishment must be endured. It is only through the Atonement of Christ that God can be merciful, because Christ suffered for sins. Even then, the Atonement only takes affect when we do our best. We still suffer, just not as much as we could have. Those who break the law and do not turn to Christ must suffer the entire consequence for their decisions. But, then, Hell will be abolished. We do teach, though, that there will be some that suffer eternally in what we call "Outer Darkness", but that is reserved for Lucifer, his angels, and those who had a perfect knowledge of God and Christ and still denied them and the Holy Ghost. So, in a way, you are right, but I don't believe Satan will be destroyed, simply because I believe it to be impossible to destroy a spirit, which is precisely what Satan is.
No kidding! I am so excited to see how they do it, especially with today's technology; imagine, a "realistic-looking" dragon!! How can you make an imaginary, mythical creature look realistic? 😉 But, yeah, they've already done so well with Aslan, and the trees, and the River God, and the Centaurs, and I could go on and on…. 😀
Here, Puddleglum, I've got the book right next to me. I'll find it for you…
"Not for the sake of your dignity, Reepicheep, but for the love that is between you and your people, and still more for the kindness your people showed me long ago when you ate away the cords that bound me on the Stone Table (and it was then, though you have long forgotten it, that you began to be TALKING Mice), you shall have your tail again." Sorry about using caps, but I can't italicize.
"'You come of the Lord Adam and the Lady Eve,' said Aslan. 'And that is both honour enough to erect the head of the poorest beggar, and shame enough to bow the shoulders of the greatest emperor on earth. Be content.'" Oooh, I LOVE that quote!! It just gives me the chills! I'm tempted to write it up to add to my apartment's quotes (we're writing up quotes to make our boring white kitchen look a little more interesting!)!
ah….I love that quote, too. 😀
Maybe showing it in a shadow cast on a nearby rock, or something?
Mmm I loved the River God! This'll be really cool, I can tell! 😀
No offence, Aravis Tarkheena's older sister, but this is a public chat. Yes, we should be respectful, but there is nothing wrong with us talking to each other about our beliefs, as long as we keep it clean. We aren't trying to offend anyone, and we are sorry if someone is offended. But, we can't help but talk about this Savior who is so amazing! I personally am not offended by someone sharing their beliefs. I just either ignore it or listen so I can better understand what they believe. And if anyone is offended, I would love it if they would say so. Once again, I don't want to offend anyone, but I do want to be able to talk about my savior without feeling like I need to hold back just because someone doesn't believe it too. And why would this stuff sound bad unless it came from a church? The "church" is just a building that people use to spend their day of rest and worship. But, the beliefs themselves are made up by, in my case, the Bible. But the beliefs don't truly carry on and spread unless people adopt it themselves. It is not the building that makes it better. And also, if Jesus was worried he would offend someone, his whole ministry wouldn't have existed! There is no doubt that people were offended by Jesus! Not that He wanted to offend someone, but sometimes people are going to be offended. SO all in all, I am sorry if someone is offended. I am not trying to offend anyone. 🙁 I enjoy being able to have clean discussions and meet others and learn more about what they believe. 🙂
narniafan4ever ♥: ditto! By the way, what happened on the Halloween news post? All kinds of comments were removed! And it won't let me post anything either! 🙁 When I said "are you on Narniaweb," I meant the forum, which I'm a member of. I can send you Halloween pics via private message. And there's a Narnia and Christianity board on it, which I would love for you to join! 😀 // Aravis: the church isn't a building. It's people redeemed by Christ. The church exists to worship Jesus and tell others about Him, to meet others' spiritual needs [and physical, when necessary]. Witnessing/evangelism is the heart of Christ. It's also His command, the "Great Commission." You know what my pastor said about the disciples in the upper room [Acts 2]? They were so full of God they went out into the streets and witnessed! Read the book of Acts [of the Apostles] when you get a chance. What were those acts? Preaching and healing! We need to ask ourselves, if Jesus isn't our lips WHEREVER we go, is He in our hearts?
Sorry for my older sisters language and sorry if I got all of you wrong but I just scanned through the comments so I must have got some things wromg and I wasn't saying anything about her blog All i'm trying to say is if you are going to talk about this stuff please go to a priavte Chat room.
Aravis: I’m curious. Why do you not want to talk about Jesus, evangelism, Christianity in Narnia, salvation of cast and crew members, etc? If our religion is real, it will show up everywhere! It’s not private in that sense, even though our experience with Christ is personal. 😉 Everyone: my website this time is AslansCountry.com. I'm a mod there. 🙂
Posted in the wrong place, as usual. 🙁
I do that all the time ;-).
what are you guys talking about?
Thank you Fire Fairy. My copies are buried in boxes right now. Must get them out soon.
They include Reepacheep's offer to do battle as well. Adds to the character.
Sorry, did not explain myself. When they meet the Dragon/Eustace, I believe that he offers to do single combate with it.
I'm wondering how they'll handle the scenes where Caspian gets carried away with the adventure of it all at the end of the voyage East and wants to abandon his original quest and his responsibility to Narnia and go onward with Reep and the Pevensies and Eustace. I could see that getting really "creepy", but it's so simple and natural in the book.
And the next part, too; where he sees the face of Aslan and comes back to them humbled. I don't know. I don't mean to be cynical, but I will be surprised if that purity isn't lost in movieland's version of "interesting". I hope not. It shows Caspian in such an admirable light. It doesn't need jazzing up, in my opinion. Like the stone table scene in LWW, I really want that part to play out the way it does in the book.
Aravis, I'm sorry you feel that way. The only problem is, some of us aren't members of the forum, because we "can't" (as in parents' interfering) or we have a problem with private chat rooms. I understand why you want this sort of thing to be kept out of public comment areas, and I respect that. But when it comes to Narnia, you'll have a very difficult time keeping people from turning the conversation to God. You don't have to read them if you don't want to. Frankly, I think the reason we're doing this in the comment area is because we're so bored and dying for news, so we make it up with discussions about our two favorite subjects: Narnia, and religion.
Sorry about that. It's from a discussion on the other page. We all got tired of scrolling up to the reply button, so we took over this page. 😉
Hmm, what to say to that?
You're very right, though: it'll be easy for them to get carried away cinematically. Although, I must say, images of Tumnus and Aslan appearing in the fire leap into my head… But anyways, I really hope they do that part right (like everything else…).
I get what you mean but the day i submited those comments I was really grumpy so I replied meanly. and I glad you told me everything I get why you would be bored because without the spies sending us videoes and people not telling us anything interseting about the cast and VDT it get boring.and I'm glad we're sorting it out because I thought it got really out of ahnd and there was going to be some kind of web war between this religous and it was mostly my fault so I'm sorry. ^^
We forgive you. 😀 😀
Just remember, everyone's entitled to his/her own opinion, as long as he/she respecty everybody else's opinions. 😉
Anytime. 😉
That's one of my favorite scenes in the book. Honestly I feel like the movie will make it bittersweet the same way they made the ending of PC more melancholy than the book narrative suggested but I enjoyed that very much. Lewis does write the farewell between Caspian and the others was very sad even though he doesn't actually go into detail. That doesn't mean the film should have to gloss over it too. I would really like for these two scenes to be as sad as suggested. Caspian looking like Miraz for a moment is an excellent insight into his character, his ambition, and how in the end he does the right thing by not breaking faith with his people. I honestly feel like the current film team will pull it off well, they've already had Caspian demonstrate how he was "not one like you" in PC.
I forgive you, too. 😀 And tell your sister that I forgive her too. 🙂
Ok ^^ (sniff) I keep forgetting.^^ ANd I'll tell her she really doesn't look at this type of stuff so I'm her messange bear.^^ And I'm really really sorry.
Depends on your point of view as to what is "Narnia based", Scribe. For instance, Lewis and Tolkien were friends as you probably know, and discussed their views on God and various religious doctrines at length, over a period of years. The Chronicles of Narnia and The Lord of the Rings were written partly as a way to illuminate their personal exigesises. The books and the religious discussions were interrelated.
So in that sense this discussion and others like it that have been going on here are as "Narnia based" as they could be. Imagine sitting down at Lewis' table in the pub where the Inklings regularly met and insisting that he keep his discussion "Narnia based", meaning no straying into doctrinal questions.
Tolkien and Lewis disagreed on some fundamental doctrinal issues and eventually had a years-long falling out with one another. So far, the Narniawebbers seem to be doing pretty well at finding common ground.
I guess I was thinking of Peter and how his character was shifted around to make his story more interesting in PC.
That bit at the end of VDT with Caspian wanting to change his quest is probably rife with drama enough as it is, without movieland enhancement. You're probably right. It may even be better in the film.
220chrisTian: I have no idea what happened in that page, but I can't comment on it anymore either! Hm….I guess we got a little outspoken…oops. 😐
I asked a mod and she said the comments got really out of hand and off topic, so they deleted all that stuff that wasn't about the news story and basically locked the page, i.e. no more comments. What was everyone talking about? I don't even know now. 🙁
Just people were all fighting over the subject of Halloween…and why people shouldn't practice it, or why it is okay to celebrate….yeah. 😐
Wow. It sounds like some people get very dogmatic and overzealous about their personal opinions and practices! I'm glad we haven't gotten to that point on this page…
Anyways, maybe it just goes to show that a respect for everyone's opinions is the best attitude to have, whether on the internet or in day-to-day interactions.
Amen to that, Fire Fairy! 😀
wow….that took me while to find the reply button….here we go again! And we have officially made it to 400 comments on this page, too. I guess we better get more news….soon! 😀
I must say, I'm curious as to how they will
depict Aslan's country in the film…will they show
only light as Reepicheep sails to AC, or will we actually
be able to see it?
Oooh, I am so excited to see how they do that!! Especially since C.S. Lewis was actually quite precise on what it looked like. I really do hope they make it so we can see it!
I am worried how they intend to do the scene in which the sheep/Aslan, becomes the Lion/Aslan.
By far one of the most symbolic scenes in the whole series.
Yeah, me too. I love that part in the book! I can't wait to see how all of this comes out. 😀
The subject of the depiction of Aslan in the movies is a very touchy one among many of the Narnia fans. I feel the same way as you do. The lamb turning into the lion is incredibly important. I also hope they do the albatross right. Another Aslan appearance that could easily be botched up. Especially since this is the first film where we will see Aslan in a form other than his familiar Lion form.
Im ok with it
Wow! that'a lot of comments. I have to stay I agree that we can post whatever we want on this page, this website is very "Narnian" but also very christian (which is probobly why it is so clean and fun!) 🙂 so lets's keep talkin'!